When to check or remove eggs

[Jamm972]

Animalzoo These are my 3 babies. They all carry the Dominant White Gene from their Mother. Not sure if they carry the crested as well from their dad. I'm keeping all 3 to see how the outcome will end up being next year I hope they take after their mom and pop

[Animalzoo]

Jamm972

Those babies are great!
I'm yet to go and see the birds today but I took photos yesterday too...here you go.

Jack with his babies through the bars.



These 2 at the front have their dad's red eyes.



...and this is one of them from the back showing their beautiful coloured feathers showing through.



The other 2 babies with their lovely browns.



This is their mum, Jill sitting on her new external nest on 4 eggs.




This is Sonny and Cher. They've been mating a lot lately but getting on really well. I'm just waiting for Cher to put down her next fertile eggs.



This is how their first baby is doing. He's very nice and big now and stands very tall and well. I thought it was a he but he'snot started to mimic any singing yet. When he hears the other males in the room he hops around and strains to listen, so maybe a boy, maybe not. He's not molted yet so his red is still very bland but he's got the grey from his dad I just wonder if he will molt to a brighter red.



Here is Romeo and Juliet. I have added an external nest and lots of nesting material but they've not really got on with it. They were plucking their babies feathers so I divided them.



Here is Juliet feeding one of her babies through the bars.



The 3 babies. One is missing tail feathers and some had a few wing feathers plucked too They're much better now they are separated.






Scully is identical to Cher. A dark red girl. Her mate, Lucky who we have on loan from a friend is identical to Romeo.


Here is Mulder, patiently waiting for his girls to come.

[Bahadir]

Jamm972 That's wonderful knowlegde for me! I think i am just not patience. Today she is laying on nest. Never gone out from nest. Yes i give them daily egg food with shell and bone. Sometimes i give them bird sand. Thanks.

[Jamm972]

Bahadir that's great. If she is persistently sitting on the nest any day now she should pop out an egg. If not, then I am not sure what to do. I'm still new at this as well. each day is a learning experience.

[Jamm972]

Animalzoo beautiful pics love them all. I got my bands today finally in the mail. Now I'm a little scared to put them on the bigger ones because there almost full grown. They are open ended but still its hard. I have the bands Personalized with my initials.

I'm very excited for the 2nd clutch with Whitey and Donald. I wasn't expecting them to want to go another round. A local breeder friend of mine said I should let them do things naturally, meaning that if they want to nest and start a clutch to let them do so. usually most birds know their limits. The maximum suggested clutches are 3 per season. I'm not pressing my luck unless they decide to be persistent.

Blanca and Zorro's babies are getting big.

I like your cage set up. whats the burlap for is that to give the hen's privacy or is it a back splash to stop the seed from going all over the place wile they eat ? I might adopt that idea if it works.

The other 3 pairs still no luck. none are showing interest in wanting to build a nest.
Strange behavior observed though with Toopay and Orangie. There cages are next to each other with their paired hens and there showing each other attention hopping around its kind of strange. Its not a fighting behavior its just peculiar.

Stud is however trying to force his Hen Noname to build a nest. I'm finding a lot of nesting material in both water dishes but nothing in the nest as of yet. I'm wondering if maybe they don't like the location of the nest, or just being stubborn with each other.

looks like Jr, Black eye, and Mello Yellow are almost ready to be on there own and moved to a flight cage. they have been playing with the seed dish.

Talk soon. take care.

[Bahadir]

Jamm972

Yes, she is in nest almost day long but she slept on perch all night. Today morning i have seen her in nest again and she was chirping so much while laying. I did not want to disturb her for checking for eggs. I will look at the nest when she gets away from nest. Yes, everyday new experiences and new testimonies of the nature's cycle. I love these little wonders! If i have a male chick, his name will be Jamm. Take care yourself and birds Have a good day.

[Jamm972]

Bahadir

Jamm972

If i have a male chick, his name will be Jamm. Take care yourself and birds Have a good day.

Aww thanks :0) I'm flattered

[Bahadir]

Jamm972

Hey, before 15 mins ago, she got out from nest and i saw an egg! i took it's photo but i have to go school now. I will upload later. Thank you for all help and advices me.

[Jamm972]

Animalzoo
So I noticed Jr and black eye cracking seeds today or at least trying to. Jr and mello Yellow aren't getting along to well, they keep fighting and pecking at each other. I think I have 2 males and 1 female.

Blanca's babies. I banded them today. I'm so happy. I just hope I did it right. I had to use a pair of scissors to spread the band apart though cause I was having trouble just sliding it on . Plus they were a little squirmiest. I squeezed the band back closed with my fingers I just hope it wont be to tight on them when they get bigger.

About what age day wise should I separate the babies completely from mom and pop? They are still being fed through the bars but with Jr and Mello Fighting I might have to do it sooner than later.

any advice ? I'm also going to ask in another topic.

[Jamm972]

Bahadir
Woohoo Congratts now comes the waiting period. She wont start incubating until after the 2nd egg is laid. Each morning she will sit on the nest to lay a new egg. She can lay up to 5 possibly 6. In rare occasions some canaries can do even 7 but very rare. Usually after the 4th egg is laid she will start to completely incubate them. Mark your calendar 14 days from the last egg that is laid. but also make a mental note to check the nest daily 4 days prior incase she started incubating the eggs earlier than expected. Also you might want to Candle the eggs around day 8 to 12 to check if they are fertile. Some people might just leave them be but curiosity will get the best of you. The benefit to candling eggs is if they are not fertile you can remove the eggs on day 12/14 allowing the Hen to prepare to try again for a 2nd clutch.

Best of luck to you and keep us posted on here. Me and Animalzoo would be glad to hear your progress were all on the same page as of right now

[Animalzoo]

Jamm972

Thats interesting, none of mine are showing aggression towards each other. In my opinion if you can see them cracking seeds and maybe eating soft fresh food and millets you can put them in the weaner/flight cage. If mum and dad are still feeding the odd one perhaps leave that one behind. You dont need to move them all together do you. Out of the 3 do you recall which ones hatched first and therefore are the oldest? Maybe take the oldest first.

When you received the bands, did you get a plastic applicator tool? For my finch bands I got one and it's perfect for stretching apart the rings to place around the legs. As you say I just used my fingers to squeeze the bands closed again altough they'll go back into shape no bother. As long as the bands twirl around the leg they wont be too tight. The birds legs wont get any bigger now, at this age this is it so they'll be fine. Congrats on doing them though and isnt it exciting they have your initials on them...little things isnt it!

Whitey and Donald are doing a fine job. They're like my jack and jill, who by the way have finished with 5 eggs (again!). The babies are cracking seed and eating too but even just yesterday dad is still feeding the younger ones through the bars so i'm holding out for a day or 2 more yet.

You'll have to get pics of Blanca and Zorros babies now

That burlap you are referring to was put there because thats where I had their first nest and that window is South facing and there was direct sunlight so it was only for shade. Dad was ok hopping about seeking shade if he got too hot but mum wouldnt have the choice while incubating and then of course the babies could suffer with the sunlight. Now she's nesting in the external nest it has closed in side walls so its irrelevant.

You could try moving nonames nest to a different position in the cage. Sounds like Stud is interested and they may just get there yet. If they're moving nesting material around the cage then they've got an idea of what to do.

You know I'm about to get some more hens, not sure if I can make it today after all as planned as my boyfriend isnt feeling too great, but toopay is an older bird and maybe passed breeding so you possibly have 3 other hens needing boys. Why don't you go get another boy and throw him in with one of the others? You've got time for the season, I'm about to start with new couples. Think about it and see how you feel. The problem is having another stock bird. Unless you can borrow one from a breeder?

It's nice to have another canary person to join in with us... Bahadir
It's exciting to hear there is an eggs this morning. Each day should bring more and more! Yay.

ttyl

[Jamm972]

hey BigBear0007 here is where we are discussing our egg process. Be great to have another birds eye and input on how things are working out for them and their pairs.

hope you will join us in our daily discussion and updates.

[Jamm972]

Hey Animalzoo So I decided I wont candle Blanca's 2nd clutch. they were successful last round so I don't se an issue this time around unless nothing hatches by day 16

Blanca's babies just started to get their growth spurt. so there feathers will start growing massively. It will be interesting to see the outcome of these babies because 1 is suppose to be a dominant white or at least a carrier of it and Zorro is the total opposite in color.

problem with blanca is I think she is recessive white because she has some hidden black feathers. If I recall a dominant white canary only has a strip of yellow under their wings. we will see

Stud is trying to impress Noname and is playing with the nesting material. I added a second nest in case Noname didn't like the position of the first nest. So should be interesting to see which nest they choose. I think she is still bent out of shape because her eggs weren't fertile and I removed them on day 16. and a day later I moved her to another cage with Stud in the divider. At least they are getting along now no fighting. but I haven't witnessed any feeding going on as of yet.

Yellow and orangie, Still nothing. Orangie tries chasing Yellow around but she just aint having it. So next year I am not going to pair them 2 up, unless for some odd chance they shock me last minute and give it a go.

To test out a theory I put in a nest with brownie and nesting material. Brownie is all by his/herself. but is next to Whitey and Donald. I want to see if Brownie will attempt to build a nest and I just got the sex all mixed up. Brownie has not had a full song, just some chirping and a partial song that is broken up.

Toopay and Tails...well they are getting along but showing no interest in each other, I expected as much. But here is the funny thing, Orangie and Toopay..... there in seperat breeding cages but are next to each other on their own stands. Toopay stands at the end of his cage and Orangie stands at the end of his practically cuddling up to each other except for the gap between the 2 cages. Could I be wrong about Orangie or even Toopay???? I really wish it was easier to tell the sex of a canary without it costing an arm and a leg. I know we could look at there hoo hoo's but that still is confusing to me because so far I haven't seen any females bottoms that look anything like the pics online. Its just strange how there all similer but different in so many ways.

I think Whitey and Donald came from a professional breeder who breeds their canaries for Shows. Only because they are so professional.

[Bahadir]

Jamm972 Animalzoo

Hello;

Second egg is delivered today. She is laying regular in nest, getting out just for eating and drinking. I hope these eggs are fertile. Take care yourselves. Thanks for supporting me. I will be here with news always.

[Jamm972]

Woohoo Bahadir its a step in the right direction. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you that there fertile. If they are have a second nest ready once the babies are about 14 days old mom and dad will want to start working on there 2nd clutch. Paired canaries can do anywhere from 1 to 3 clutches a season, and can lay anywhere from 4 to 6 eggs each clutch.

Keep us posted and me and Animalzoo are here if you have any questions or need advice.