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A doubt

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:11 pm
by sskmaestro
Can we turn a yellow canary to red canary by feeding color food during Molt?

is this a trick breeders use to sell birds? or is it a fact?

Re: A doubt

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:45 pm
by paul-inAZ
I doubt it.
Apparently color feeding a yellow bird can give it a very slight orangish color but it won't become red.

Re: A doubt

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:55 am
by Stuart whiting
paul-inAZ wrote: I doubt it.
Apparently color feeding a yellow bird can give it a very slight orangish color but it won't become red.
Totally agree with you on that one Paul :-BD

Re: A doubt

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 6:21 am
by Dave
Yes, Stuart and Paul. Canaries turn red IF they have the genetic ability to do so AND IF they are fed the coloring agent during the molt.

Re: A doubt

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 8:19 am
by Stuart whiting
Dave wrote: Yes, Stuart and Paul. Canaries turn red IF they have the genetic ability to do so AND IF they are fed the coloring agent during the molt.
sorry Dave but canaries don't just turn red by giving colour food,

You mention genetics,

Now......genetics are a massive when it comes to the new colour canary world and depends on what you actually mean by this,

If a bird is a non colour fed yellow ground bird it will definitely not go red just by giving colour food when the bird moults no matter how much colour you give it,
The bird will just simply go orange,

Look at all border, Fife, Norwich and Yorkshire canaries we have yellows and buffs, give caraphyll red to these birds and all of the yellow birds would go orange in colour whereas the buff birds would go a wishy washy salmon colour,

Only the Norwich and Yorkshires would in reality be colour fed for exhibition purposes as borders and fifes are not actually colour fed for exhibition.

Now.....if the bird in question is a new colour red ground bird then yes the birds will most certainly go red :-BD

Re: A doubt

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 8:41 am
by Dave
Hi Stuart,

That's not what I said. They have to have the gene to uses the coloring agent to produce red feathers, AND they have to be fed the coloring agent. I know that just feeding the coloring agent isn't enough to turn a canary red.

Or, as I've heard breeders say, the bird has to be Color Bred AND Color Fed.

Dave

Re: A doubt

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 8:46 am
by Stuart whiting
Dave wrote: Hi Stuart,

That's not what I said. They have to have the gene to uses the coloring agent to produce red feathers, AND they have to be fed the coloring agent. I know that just feeding the coloring agent isn't enough to turn a canary red.

Or, as I've heard breeders say, the bird has to be Color Bred AND Color Fed.

Dave
Oh right, ok mate, oops cross wires #-o

Yes yer right in what you say :-BD