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Re: uh oh

Post by Finnie » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:37 am

debbie276 wrote:
My advice is to skip the budgie seed mix, and just use the finch mix you are already feeding your finches.
So, budgies eat finch mix of seeds?
I thought budgies liked the bigger seeds like sunflower etc, they are not in my finch mix :? Most of the seeds in my finch mix are small
Sunflower seeds are too high in fat for budgies on a regular basis.

Since I breed mine, I like to make sure they have as wide a variety of different seeds as possible, so they can pick and choose the specific ones they need during the different phases of the breeding cycle. I've read that this is what they do, but I have never been able to tell for sure, just by looking.

But to give them a wide choice, I feed finch mix and canary mix, which I buy in 50# bags and serve separately in mason jar feeders. The budgies hardly touch the canary mix, but they eat the finch mix with much less waste than when I used to feed them parakeet mix.

They do tend to leave behind the tiny black seeds. And the canary mix is heavy on "canary grass seed", which my budgies always leave behind, although I have heard from other people that their budgies love that one, so go figure.

My finches and Bourkes eat the canary mix, along with its canary grass seed much more than the budgies do, but still leave the tiny black ones.

For my breeding budgies, I also give whole oat groats, but I don't give those to the finches.

The Bourke's get oat groats all the time, as well as black sunflower seed and safflower seed. I wouldn't dare give any of those to the budgies very often, or they would become porkers! :)

But if you look on the ingredients list of the budgie (parakeet) mix and the finch mix, you will see that all the budgie seeds are also found in the finch, plus some extras, so by giving finch mix, you aren't cutting out anything that the parakeet mix had except for the fillers.

Oh, and if they don't eat fresh veggies, just keep trying. If they weren't raised on them, it can take a long long time for an adult budgie to be willing to try them. But once they do, they will learn to love them. Just keep giving veggies over and over, so that they become familiar with them and get over their "fear of the unknown". Try all different kind of forms too, like whole, chopped, raw, cooked. Once you get the ball rolling, it will get easier. A couple good starter veggies are celery leaves and carrot tops, corn and peas, and seeding heads of grasses from outside, as long as you know they weren't sprayed.

Try making a perch out of a carrot, attached to the wires. Budgies like to chew on their perches, and once they find out they can eat that one....

(Oh, I'm so sorry, I could talk about budgies all day! )
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Re: uh oh

Post by finchmix22 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:16 am

Thanks. That was helpful!
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Post by Finnie » Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:27 am

You're welcome. :)

I hate that I'm so long winded, but sometimes it just has to happen. As someone once said on another forum, "Please give enough details, we don't charge by the word, you know!" :lol:
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Post by EyesofFreedom » Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:42 pm

ok well we have them home now... Sky (blue) and Skittles (green/yellow)... I almost forget I had them in my car and they were sliding around a little through the curves and then I slowed down... lol

they came with an old cage... and I mean old... it is so old the plastic base has the faded discolored funny feel to it... I washed it really good and all their dishes as well... they are currently house in my storage room which is the second closet for the master suite... I figure 21 days should do it...

I know the previous owner got them from Petco about 9 months ago... I did manage to get a bag of feed that they have been using... its the Walmart Parakeet/Finch mix...

I added a cuttlebone and rearranged the cage so they can fly some... and moved the perches away from being above their food... oh and it freaking hurts when they bite :shock: little fartknockers =))

As far as sex I don't have a clue... what do I need to look for?

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Re: uh oh

Post by finchmix22 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:49 pm

I can't see the ceres well enough to say, but males have blue and hens are flesh/pink colored or sometimes, a little whitish in color on the blue parakeets. Nice cage setup!
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Post by EyesofFreedom » Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:55 pm

ceres?
finchmix22 wrote: Nice cage setup!
I try to think like a bird and set it up the way I would want to have it 8)
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Re: uh oh

Post by finchmix22 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:02 pm

The cere is the portion of the above the beaks.
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Re: uh oh

Post by finchmix22 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:03 pm

http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q= ... 6481201308
Here's a link that shows parakeet anatomy.
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Post by EyesofFreedom » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:09 pm

ok I got some pics... and jeez they can bite :(

Here is Skittles...

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Post by EyesofFreedom » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:13 pm

and here is Sky...
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it's white with a touch of blue to it...?

So what are they?

I am guessing Sky is female and Skittles is a male...?
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Post by Nerien » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:53 pm

I would say Sky is a female, and Skittles is a male. Skittles has a blue cere (the skin across the top of the beak with the nostrils in it), right? Blue cere is always a boy. Sky's looks basically white in the picture, white, tan, brown means a girl. Female ceres will also get rough looking, even flaky or crusty looking.

In some color mutations, the ones that make a lighter or whiter bird, (reducing the amount of blue or green on the body,) the male's cere does not turn blue. In these cases, it may be pink or pink-purplish, but it remains smooth, never flaky, crusty, and not white, tan, or brown. It can be a little tricky to tell when you are not used to looking at them, but if you can compare them side by side, it becomes easier. Next time you're in a pet store with parakeets, (unless they are all very young) look at the ceres of the various color birds in there. Or, go crazy and adopt more than a dozen of them like we did, it's much easier to tell when you can see all the variations at once.

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Re: uh oh

Post by finchmix22 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:58 pm

That would be my guess too. Skye a hen and Skittle a cock.
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Post by EyesofFreedom » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:12 pm

Well I would say I got a good deal then...

Everything in the first pic... $40 birds, cage and toys
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Re: uh oh

Post by 30 Seconds to Bob » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:12 pm

Nice birds - good luck with them! A budgie was also my first bird at age 6. I agree with the others on the sexes. P.S. Don't forget to add them to your signature. Bob
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Post by EyesofFreedom » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:38 pm

I see the term budgie and parakeet interchanged a lot... is this a tomato tomatoe thing?
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