What a society, for petsmart at least.

NaOH55 · Post by **NaOH55** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:04 am

I had to snatch this guy up. While societies are as readily available as they are I am noticing it is not so common to find something outside of the pied and dilute varieties. As far as I can tell this little guy/girl looks to be 100% fawn.

Post by **Hilary** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:13 am

You don't often see self societies in Petsmart! Good find!

Kathleen · Post by **Kathleen** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:59 am

Wow...he or she is beautiful !! What does "self" society mean?

beccafigs · Post by **beccafigs** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:22 am

What a gorgeous bird!! Congratulations.

Post by **Hilary** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:54 pm

The selfs are single-color rather than pied (though really their feathers are all different colors!).

kenny · Post by **kenny** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:00 pm

definately dilute red brown self ...congratulations on your find

ken

EmilyHurd · Post by **EmilyHurd** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:06 am

I love self societies a lot more too... there are a lot of piieds that (in my opinion) are really ugly. Although, I breed my societies and occasionally I'll get a beautiful pied...

Congrats on the new bird! I also recently acquired a fawn self society!

fairestfinches · Post by **fairestfinches** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:12 am

Congratulations on your find. It's a beautiful Society.

Every so often you can find very nice looking Societies at Petsmart. Several months ago we found one at a Petsmart in Jeff. City MO. while visiting family. She's a beautiful crested chocolate pied that has very nice balance in her markings. We didn't expect to find her, but we always travel with a hospital cage just for those rare occasions.

As I always tell Michele- "Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while. . ."

Sean

NaOH55 · Post by **NaOH55** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:47 am

Turns out he is indeed a 'he.' After a few days of getting familiar with the new environment this little one sings almost non-stop. It's interesting seeing how my other societies respond to him since they are in the full throws of incubation. He's really having to work for their attention, and is miles away from being a welcomed member of the nest. I wonder if he and my pied fawn could produce one or two selfs.

fairestfinches · Post by **fairestfinches** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:12 am

If breed him with a pied I think you'd probably just get more pieds from the pairing. Your best bet is to try and find another self for him to breed with if you want to keep the self intact.

If you decided to get seriuos about locating a self, Tim Weisman in Chicago is big into Societies and normally he has several self blood lines.

Sean

kenny · Post by **kenny** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:04 am

you really need to know that the ,bird you mate it with is a self otherwise you could get all kinds of colours coming out..infact if you dont know the parentage of your self then it could have pied babies!

ken

Post by **Hilary** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:17 am

Selfs are basically birds that had the pied bred out of them. If you are anywhere near the mid-Atlantic I breed them, and have several available.

NaOH55 · Post by **NaOH55** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:19 pm

Wow, that opened a can of worms, a good one too. Thanks for the warnings guys, in the future I'd definitely try to keep some self bloodlines, and thank you especially fairest for the recommendation. I think I'll be getting a little more serious about breeding these guys when spring rolls around and I can make some more suitable housing.

Eel Noob · Post by **Eel Noob** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:58 pm

Awesome pickup.

I occassionally stop by all the local petsmart and petco just to see if they have anything interesting in. I recently picked up a female self chocolate society that looks to be part japanese style society (ones with a regular crest on top head and the fluffy chest and neck feathers) from Petsmart.

As for the breeding I beleive pied is dominant. I did a breeding using male self chocolate to pied fawn female and somehow all the youngs turned out to be chocolate but were all pied also.

RH/WB · Post by **RH/WB** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:44 pm

Ken, is that a picture of a gray headed / white breasted / gray back gould? White cheeks are throwing me, as it then resembles a Java.....

Beautiful Self Society.