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Re: What Are These?

Post by Stuart whiting » Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:43 am

andiok wrote: lovezebs
Those tiny cages are schooling cages. Those are the standard sizes recognized by the COM
After their first molt In a flight, males go through a 3-4 months school by listening to a maestro bird or CD player with your favourite song.
Their cages are placed in a schooling cabinet (a cardboard box in my case) to isolate them from listening to other bird voices other then your cd.

Here is an article from the western waterslager website
http://www.western-waterslager.com/Arti ... aining.htm
I ain't reading all of that :-J .....lol

But yes mate I fully agree with what yer say, spot on :thumbup:
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Re: What Are These?

Post by andiok » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:51 am

Stuart whiting wrote: I ain't reading all of that :-J .....lol
hahahaha no you dont have to Stuart. :D
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Re: What Are These?

Post by haroun » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:37 am

andiok wrote: lovezebs
Sry just saw your question Elana.
Yes i have crossed linnets with canaries and goldfinches with the purpose of a better song.
Its very common to make hybrids with singing birds, especially with goldfinches.
You need lots of different spaces in your home to train different bird songs though because they shouldnt hear anything but the training song or training master (this would be your maestro teacher bird)

I have to say that i've always aimed to get a beautiful goldfinch song, so i could teach my young goldies that song. With linnets that was not possible because their mules with goldfinch or canary will add voices from their repertory as well and that defeats the purpose. But they are beautiful birds though.

here is a the linnet and his song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xyz1RXaGrcg

here is the mule with a canary singing as a goldfinch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lai1oBDbd_I

here is the mule with a goldfinch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vsqtSK1T80
The first one oh my God it is amazing im seeing a goldie with goldie-linnet combo. It is huge with large spectre of harmonics. I think this is the best combo to get the best mulet song goldie x linnet
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Re: What Are These?

Post by haroun » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:48 am

https://youtu.be/t-9epft8ryk
Have seen this Homocraduelis
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Post by andiok » Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:38 pm

haroun wrote: https://youtu.be/t-9epft8ryk
Have seen this Homocraduelis
ahhahahahahahaahhaa
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Re: What Are These?

Post by Rob » Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:39 pm

lovezebs wrote: andiok

Not sure if I understand Andy,
You place them in tiny individual cages in a large cardboard box, and then what?
I read an article recently (I can't remember where, otherwise I'd link it) that said they learn best in the dark. It recommended moving them to the boxes, like Andy has suggested, and then slowly covering up the fronts over a few days to get them used to the dark. And then play the training music for a few hours every day, with them in the dark. They won't sing along, but they'll listen intently.

The Russian flute singers were trained in the same manner, but with flutes and similar noises.

I successfully trained one of my canaries by playing youtube videos for him in the mornings (without putting him in a small training cage) and he sings beautifully for me now.
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Re: What Are These?

Post by Rob » Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:43 pm

haroun wrote: https://youtu.be/t-9epft8ryk
Have seen this Homocraduelis
Is this a new mutation? Lol
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Re: What Are These?

Post by lovezebs » Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:45 pm

haroun

An interesting looking bird..... :)) :)) :)) and what a song !!!
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Re: What Are These?

Post by haroun » Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:50 pm

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WczfYS1RByw
Lol, this Guy is the expert on decoding the goldie song. He classes the bird according to its melody notes. Go figure here in the capital algiers on a few miles around the eastern side goldies haven't the same notes as the southern or the westerns lol.
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Post by haroun » Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:54 pm

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VNuUo6sQX6Q
The notes well explained :mrgreen:
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Re: What Are These?

Post by haroun » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:07 pm

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RzgciXHdtpc

Bearing and the repetitive notatipns



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EkKclb0RNB4
The passage notes
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Re: What Are These?

Post by Stuart whiting » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:07 pm

haroun wrote: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WczfYS1RByw
Lol, this Guy is the expert on decoding the goldie song. He classes the bird according to its melody notes. Go figure here in the capital algiers on a few miles around the eastern side goldies haven't the same notes as the southern or the westerns lol.
Understood every bit of that =)) :)) PMSL

I definitely understood the Shi witty......chow, chow, chow bit :-J
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Re: What Are These?

Post by lovezebs » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:17 pm

haroun

That's amazing that they have different songs from different areas.

Regarding the fellow in the first video, is he actually whisteling :- those notes, or just listening?
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Re: What Are These?

Post by haroun » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:55 pm

Whisteling of Corse. Elana

And this oldman is whiqteling the wild caught goldie, we can cleary hear in the background a goldie replaying :shock: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8MsBbwA1iek
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Re: What Are These?

Post by haroun » Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:26 pm

Stuart whiting wrote:
haroun wrote: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WczfYS1RByw
Lol, this Guy is the expert on decoding the goldie song. He classes the bird according to its melody notes. Go figure here in the capital algiers on a few miles around the eastern side goldies haven't the same notes as the southern or the westerns lol.
Understood every bit of that =)) :)) PMSL

I definitely understood the Shi witty......chow, chow, chow bit :-J
At 00:48 he spokes about the gallop note. Comnined to tiwawati
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