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Need help on sexing this gouldian

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:54 pm
by ac12
I had a pair of gouldians together for about 2 months, and no movement to the nest. Neither bird went into the nest.

When I got her the head was a little mottled, like hens are. Maybe not as much as some hens.
Its breast is not as dark as the other PB, so I figured hen.

Then today, I started wondering if my hen is really a cock. From the side, the red on the beaks of both birds look similar, which got me wondering. I just do not remember what the "hens" beak looked like when I got her. But I thought it was more red than just the tip.

So Male or Female ?

Re: Need help on sexing this gouldian

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:03 am
by cartel
I'ma go out on a limb and say it looks like a female, but a pic from futher away with both would help also :wink:

Re: Need help on sexing this gouldian

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:28 am
by L in Ontario
I would also say that is a hen.

Re: Need help on sexing this gouldian

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:33 am
by CandoAviary
Female :D The tail wires are short, the mask is not as full as a males, The beak will turn rosy all over when in breeding mode, otherwise just the tip is colored...though the males tip will usually be clearer and brighter.
She has some very vivid and nice coloring. Many times the feamles are not really that drab and pale compared to the males. A lot has to do with the birds genetics....

From this phots, Her beaks look like it is beginning to 'smear' with red. Coming into breeding condition :D

Re: Need help on sexing this gouldian

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:31 am
by Jan
based on the picture, add my vote for hen.... Depending on the age of the bird, I have been fooled in the past with some yellow back goulds until the second moult

Re: Need help on sexing this gouldian

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:59 am
by ac12
OK
So maybe it is the male that is not interested in mating. :(

Re: Need help on sexing this gouldian

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:33 pm
by ac12
Oh drat, should I put her back into the female community cage until her beak gets all red?

Re: Need help on sexing this gouldian

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:41 pm
by CandoAviary
Are the pair getting along? Is the male courting her? I usually will leave mine paired if they are getting along. Hens get different degrees of red... I am sure you boy will start courting her when she is ready :D
When they are in peak breeding condition they usually start the courtship ritual immediately. But I have put some together that courted a little then just hung out together for a while before they got serious about laying a clutch. I figure they know the timing better than me and as long as they are not stressing each other out I just let them hang out.
I had 4 clutches hatch this week from pairs that I set up 8 weeks ago. Patience usually wins out :D

Re: Need help on sexing this gouldian

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:21 am
by ac12
Candace
They are getting along like buddies, and I do not have another pair ready to mate that could use the breeding cage, although I wish I did. So I will leave them together.

I have not seen any courting behavior. :(
As you said...patience...(as I jump around wanting them to get going)

Re: Need help on sexing this gouldian

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:13 pm
by ac12
ps
I have only heard this bird chirp, I have never heard it sing, or even look like it was trying to sing.