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oday I went to the bird market, I saw a pair of sparrows but I do not know these types of sparrows. the smaller size of the Java sparrow, tail is longer and not symmetrical.
Nobody knows whether this kind of sparrow?
These birds have red eyes. white coat color, there is a line of gray on his back.
sorry picture is not clear and did not focus but may help to identify it.

Is this some sort of Java mutation possibly?

http://www.javafinch.co.uk/coulor/colour.html scroll down to the bottom...three types of mutations in white.

The head and face made me immediately think of Javas as well. Did you buy them?

I agree with those above, the large beak in paticular indicates that it's a Java. I think they call that colour mutation ''pure whites''. It's common in pet shops apparently, although i havn't seen any myself.

cindy wrote:Is this some sort of Java mutation possibly?

http://www.javafinch.co.uk/coulor/colour.html scroll down to the bottom...three types of mutations in white.

Cindy, thanks for the link ...
they may be mutations of the java sparrow. but the question is of a smaller body size of his posture and eyes red.
it seems they're really kind of Java. I will find out and the results will be presented.

L in Ontario wrote:The head and face made me immediately think of Javas as well. Did you buy them?

Lin ... I have not bought it but I see quite a lot of stock still .. but surely I'll get it...because I love it!

society finch maybe

Could it be the white mutation of the Timor Sparrow?

The last link above(in psilocybin post) is an Ino society finch.
http://www.zebrafinch.com/SocietyFinch/Ino.html

I have several of these crested and non crested. It could be the albino zebra also, but they don't usually have the wash of color on them It would be easy to distinguish cetween a zebra and society by thier very different song. Since you referred to as sparrow, I would think society. Also the ino societies have theses washes of color. I will post some pics of mine once I find them

its a cross breed with white java and white bengalese finch,coz head looks like java and tail looks like bengalese finch.

Here's a picture of my red eyed societies:




and one of my crested in the nest:

They definitely look like societies to me. I've seen plenty with the saddleback pattern too, never quite so light though. The only reason for the debate is because it's hard to determine size by a picture. I think if any of us saw this bird in real life we would know immediately whether it was a java or a society. Maybe you could post a pic with a different species of finch nearby for size comparison.

thanks for the information . This is very helpful.
The species seems indeed The Ino Society Finch. like in the picture Cando Aviary and written in http://www.zebrafinch.com/SocietyFinch/Ino.html which states that:

"The Ino Society is a relatively new mutation in the US. While a few Inos have been in the states for several years, they were in only a few collections, none were ever offered for sale, they essentially remained hidden for years rarely even being seen at shows. Consequently, few people knew of them and they are still rare"

wherever its circulation? what bird is quite expensive? maybe someone should inform and know what the price of this bird?

thanks b4

Domenic wrote:They definitely look like societies to me. I've seen plenty with the saddleback pattern too, never quite so light though. The only reason for the debate is because it's hard to determine size by a picture. I think if any of us saw this bird in real life we would know immediately whether it was a java or a society. Maybe you could post a pic with a different species of finch nearby for size comparison.

I'll try to take pictures of finches is juxtaposed with Java sparrows. might be helpful for comparison.

New handmade cage from wood and bamboo materials for a pair of "Ino Society Finch. Smaller but they seem comfortable. I like it a unique model with its own hand-made nest boxes .. hopefully they will breed.

Beautiful birds And I have to add, very unique cage I love it