what mutation is she?

6finchfriends · Post by **6finchfriends** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:26 pm

Here are a couple of pictures of my hen Zebra. Does anyone know what mutation she is? I would really appreciate anyone's opinion. She is too young to breed right now but will be around July and I'd love to know what she is.

L in Ontario · Post by **L in Ontario** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:32 pm

I'll take a wild guess of a fawn CFW - just a guess. Fawn due to the base colour and CFW due to the scalloping on the wings. Very pretty!

bugaboo5 · Post by **bugaboo5** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:27 pm

Female Isabel or Silver Isabel? Beautiful bird.

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:52 pm

If you scroll down the page on this sight and look at the male (I have a florida silver), notice the scalloping on the back and wings and also the coloring of the tail.

http://www.efinch.com/species/ffzeb.htm

I have a female very much like yours...I think you have a silver Isabella also the belly is buff and the wings are lacy.

6finchfriends · Post by **6finchfriends** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:38 am

Thanks so much Liz, Bug & Cindy! I see what you mean by looking at the Florida Silver. She has the same back and tummy color as the male. I feel so lucky to have been given these tosslings that were raised by my breeder's Societys. I guess since he couldn't tell which Zebras in the aviary tossed their chicks he didn't want to keep them. I wasn't expecting such beautiful mutations. I'm hoping to breed her in July with my penguin male.

I think she's very pretty as well.. but I might be a little predjudice

kenny · Post by **kenny** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:51 am

hi
in this country,if it was being entered in a show,it would be classed as a silver,or cream

ken

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:01 am

You are welcome....is your Florida Fancy male her brother? If he wasn't and you put her with him you would get a Florida Silver.

If you put her with a male penguin those babies would be lovely. I have penguin females, I just put a female with a normal male and got two little penguin babies...the tails have a different look than the typical zebra pattern. The spare penguin female will be put with what I believe is a penguin male...I can't wait to see your out come and mine!

6finchfriends · Post by **6finchfriends** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:04 pm

They are not related. 3 tossed babies of different ages but close to the same age, different parents. I think the boys are a saddleback and a penguin. Do you think he might be a Florida fancy instead of a penguin? I wish I knew more about Zebbies

I've been reading but there is so much to know about genetics it makes me dizzy

I really appreciate the information.

lovemyfinch · Post by **lovemyfinch** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:26 pm

No idea what mutation he is, but he sure is cute

6finchfriends · Post by **6finchfriends** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:42 pm

He is adorable in person too. He's very small and has bow legs and a hurt foot from an old injury. I'm guessing it's from being tossed as a chick but who knows. His left foot toes in and looks like a couple of his toes don't want to work some times. He gets around just fine and is always singing. I'm hoping it won't hinder his ability to breed.

bugaboo5 · Post by **bugaboo5** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:29 am

Saddleback and Penguin sounds right. They are all very beautiful. You definitely lucked out with the Silver Isabel, Saddleback, and Penguin - all lesser common mutations.

6finchfriends · Post by **6finchfriends** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:23 pm

I'm just shocked since the breeder that I bought my Societies from just gave them to me

for FREE

because he didn't know which parents they were tossed from. I had no idea what mutation he gave me since all the pet stores in my area only have the normals. (which I think are very pretty as well) So thank you all for your information. When they are old enough to breed (July Aug) which pair do you think would produce the best chicks? She seems to favor the Penguin male but neither of the boys are interested in breeding right now. I'm not sure if I should wait and see which one she likes the most or if I should separate her in a cage with the one I want. I've been trying to figure out the genetics but it's difficult with single factor/double factor etc. and not knowing their parents/grandparents. But the light is starting to come on slowly

I'm very excited to be able to give them a good home. They are lovely little stinkers

I just love their happy chatter!

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:36 pm

If you put your penguin male with a normal, no pied female (it can also be a fawn no pied) you will get penguinn chicks!!!!!

Pied with mated with a penguin cancells out the orange colors in the cheeks and flanks...so you will loose the penguin cheek patches and flanks in any male offspring.

this should help...read the section on "combinatios"

http://www.efinch.com/species/pengzeb.htm

I just had fledglings from a penguin female and a normal male...the tails look frosted so I am hoping these are penguins.

6finchfriends · Post by **6finchfriends** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:54 pm

Thanks for the link Cindy! That helps me understand a lot more. I will remember that the pied will cancel out all black. I would rather the silver female mate with the penguin male. I think the penguins are so cute! Hope we get to see photos of your fledglings! Sounds like they will be penguin

!

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:59 pm

Trish....the babies fledged and the parents wanted to nest so I did the same thing I did for my owls...put a clean baby nest in and gave the parents an ABBA nest box...they sit and build then go to the youngsters room across the perch and feeds.

The first fledgling came out, perfect little frosted tail as in the pictures on the website, went to get my camera and the dad plucked it's tail feathers out. Once I put the extra nest in there the pluck stopped. the other on has it's tail but does not stay out long enough for a photo session.

Based on the tail markings and some of the coloring on the chicks, I am hoping they look penguin since I have a spare penguin female to put with what I think might be a boy offspring penguin.

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