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My new pair, intensive and frost

Those are so pretty. I like the Pied? version too. Nice contrast.

Very Pretty Candace

Those "pieds" are the staffords, red crested...or red factor glousters under the next post, titled red factor corona gloster.. In canaries they call the two tone colors "variegated"

Thanks, these are some of the cutest canaries I have seen around at the fairs.... I bought them to sell from the store...but I am getting pretty temoted to keep these

Lovely!! I hope to have some Staffords in the fall!

Love the colourings on the new pair Candace. The names suit them very well

hi
now right there with those great looking canaries is a feather lesson ,the orange one has what breeders call yellow feathers because of thier sleek tightness,and the other with the frosting on its feathers would be called buff because the feathers dont have that sleek appearence of the orange one lovely birds candace!

ken

lovemyfinch wrote: The names suit them very well

those aren't their names. That is the feather type
As Kenny pointed out in the fether type lesson the yellow feather type is also called intensive feather type.( calling it intensive is less confusing with red factors since yellow can be confused with color instead of type ) the terms simply mean that the feather is a more slender, hard type feather, that has color throught the feather.
The buff feather type, or non intensive, is a wider feather with color about 7/8" of the length. The tip of the feathers are white giving a frosted appearance so are referred to as frost
You should always breed a buff with an intensive (yellow). You will get both types in the offsprings. If you breed 2 intensives (yellows) the birds get thin feathers and skinny looking.
If you breed 2 buffs the birds get too soft of feathers and sometimes when molting cannot break through the skin causing feather cyst. They also will appear fat and sloppy with all those loose feathers.
There is one other type feather called mosaic.
Here is a link that shows some of the differences and explains better than I can
http://www.redbarnwings.com/canary_feather.htm

Janine, if I dare name them, then I am for sure to keep them

My wife's "creamcicle" was an intense orange like yours.
He just has to eat enough color food to get back his orange feathers at his next molt. I printed out the list of veggies with high beta carotein and my wife will be picking some of them up next time to the grocery store.

That is probably something you need to tell whoever buys it from you...what to do to KEEP the orange color.

Yes, I will inform them of the best foods... that list on that site was a great one. I also will be selling a couple of different water color suppliments and some nestling foods with carentonoids.
I usually do a combination of all three. Many times they don't always eat enough of the veggies or nestling food...but they always drink the water.

Candace
I may want to buy some of the red suppliment for my wifes canary. She really wants him to get back to the orange that I brought him home as. Let me know when you have them in stock.

Even if it isn't their names, I like Frosty! Really pretty like she's got frost on her feathers.

Beautiful canaries!! I'm partial to the red factors even though they are not natural. I have three and I adore them. Your canaries are just gorgeous. Any chicks from your numerous pairings with the canaries from the previous show? I agree, I would keep these jewels as well.

Thanks Bugaboo I had one chick hatch..... and died shortly after drying off. The others seem to be sitting on duds.... I thought the hens were to quick to have been bred.... at least it gives them something to do until while hanging out in quarentine. I have some that may still hatch...they laid later than the others. I don't bother with candling nor did I substiute with dummy eggs. I'll let you know if any hatch
I did lose one bird. The private breeder that I bought from had all the birds sexed except one. He said he thought it was a male but it never sang. But he was sure it was a male. I had that bird with a singing male in a cage by themselves thinking I had 2 males.
I went in to find one of them (they looked identical) on the floor sprawled out and thought it was dead. I picked it up and realized it was barely alive. I flt a bulge in the lower belly... an EGG
Well not a male... the bird passed away and I preformed an ecropsy. It was a soft shell egg and the uterous had inverted/detached.
Obviosly the bird wasn't singing because it was a female..but possibly this bird had some hormonal issue to make it appear to be a male and act so aggressively..... not sure . I left the soft shell egg, felt like a liquid vitamin E capsule, on the counter. I forgot about it and later that afternoon I went to get it and it had totally collasped upon itself...all fluid totally evaporated... their was no yolk in the egg at all. Strange. All the other birds are proving to be in excellent health so far through their quarentine.

hi
if that bird is rung with the breeders ring take it back to him officially he sold you a female instead of a male...he could have known all the time that it was not well ,as birds always hide thier illnesses until the last moment i would take it back and ask for your money back or an exchange surely you must have some purchase rights,buying and selling here is different they give you a week or two and if your not happy then you take it back....shops do the same thing when they are selling livestock and clearly this bird had been ill a while

ken