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Red Chest Bar On Gouldian
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:51 am
by PrettyBird
I just noticed that my male gould is getting a red chest bar right below the band of white. Is this rare for them? Or more common in the wild?
I tried to take some pictures to show but had to have the flash on, so its very hard to see. In person you can really see it. Im sorry
Why is he getting a red band now?
Pics are below (click to view larger)

Re: Red Chest Bar On Gouldian
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:49 am
by debbie276
Not rare, it's called a red line or fusion bar and it's believed that the gouldians had this in the past but it's been bred out over time. Personally I like the look and I'm glad you see it more and more. Here's a link to a little more information about it:
http://users.skynet.be/fa398872/engoulm09.htm It shows up really nicely on a WB.
Very pretty SFYellow you have there.
Re: Red Chest Bar On Gouldian
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:31 am
by Martie
Your bird is lovely! I don't know much about where/how the red line originated, but think it looks really nice and adds a richness to the birds' colors.
Re: Red Chest Bar On Gouldian
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:26 am
by Finchman1
very nice red line mutation. wish i could also achieve one someday and a blue head blueback or a dilute/pastel blue head gouldian
Re: Red Chest Bar On Gouldian
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:58 pm
by PrettyBird
I love the look of it as well! It seems to be getting darker by the day. Right now its a peachy red color.
I just found it interesting that its coming in now

...so does this mean that he is younger than I thought? about a year or so? Im not sure.
Also will he carry this red line, onto his offspring? I would love if I can get more of them from him. How does this work? Does he have to be with a specific mate for this to happen?
Re: Red Chest Bar On Gouldian
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:04 pm
by DanteD716
I think the red bar would look nice. Your gould has great coloring!
Re: Red Chest Bar On Gouldian
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:52 pm
by debbie276
I'm not sure that the fusion bar is that well understood yet. Here are a couple links to other threads talking about it. If you do a search for red line lots come up.
http://www.finchforum.com/viewtopic.php ... t=red+line
http://www.finchforum.com/viewtopic.php ... t=red+line
http://www.finchforum.com/viewtopic.php ... t=red+line
Re: Red Chest Bar On Gouldian
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:34 pm
by DanteD716
My uncle has a bird identical to yours, same coloring and everything, he has a fusion bar also, it may occur more in this color mutation. (Rh/wb/yellow back)
Re: Red Chest Bar On Gouldian
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:36 pm
by PrettyBird
Thanks for the links debbie, Ive checked them out before as well. Hmm so he could possibly pass this on to his offspring...I wish I knew more about this.
But even searching on the internet I dont find much about it, other than that one site you sent. frustrating!
Dante- or really? hmm its very interesting. I really love the red line. It really just adds that extra something that seemed to be missing ;)
Re: Red Chest Bar On Gouldian
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:25 am
by DanteD716
Do you know if your male is split to blue?
Re: Red Chest Bar On Gouldian
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:54 am
by CandoAviary
Is is thought to be passed on from the hen (mother) to her sons. So seems to be a sex linked trait. I am still breeding to see how it passes through my lines but results will probably take a few years of observation and many breedings

Re: Red Chest Bar On Gouldian
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:12 pm
by PrettyBird
DanteD716 wrote:Do you know if your male is split to blue?
Yes I was told he is split to blue.
CandoAviary wrote:Is is thought to be passed on from the hen (mother) to her sons. So seems to be a sex linked trait. I am still breeding to see how it passes through my lines but results will probably take a few years of observation and many breedings

Oh thats interesting. Thank you. How many red lines do you have now?
Re: Red Chest Bar On Gouldian
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:47 pm
by DanteD716
Maybe that explains the off color yellow back. My uncles is split to blue and looks the same as yours, even the off yellow back