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color canary feed to euro goldfinch for its red color?

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:38 pm
by hamilton
Hi, Want to know can i feed my European Goldfinch,, redfactor canary color feed for maintaining its red color on its head. If not then what should i feed them to maintain its redness as its getting little pale. Thanking All. GOD Bless

Re: color canary feed to euro goldfinch for its red color?

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:45 am
by Atbird
Won't it also color the yellow portions on the wings? I don't have goldfinches, but I have red factors and once gave red food to a yellow canary, which became a bright Orange.

Re: color canary feed to euro goldfinch for its red color?

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 5:05 pm
by jonvill
Anna is correct, feeding (cantaxanthin) color-food will change the gold bars on the goldfinch's wings orange but if you wait till after the new wing feathers come in you can get away with it.
I prefer to feed greens (dandelion, kale and romaine) to my birds daily so that they can produce the red masks naturally.
If you can get them to eat carrots then you will benefit greatly.
Cooked carrots are better than raw carrots and they won't turn the gold wing bars orange. You might try a cooked carrot shredded and mixed into the eggfood.

Re: color canary feed to euro goldfinch for its red color?

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:46 pm
by hamilton
jonvill wrote: Anna is correct, feeding (cantaxanthin) color-food will change the gold bars on the goldfinch's wings orange but if you wait till after the new wing feathers come in you can get away with it.
I prefer to feed greens (dandelion, kale and romaine) to my birds daily so that they can produce the red masks naturally.
If you can get them to eat carrots then you will benefit greatly.
Cooked carrots are better than raw carrots and they won't turn the gold wing bars orange. You might try a cooked carrot shredded and mixed into the eggfood.
Thank you So much for the information.

Re: color canary feed to euro goldfinch for its red color?

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:47 pm
by hamilton
Thankyou. So kind

Re: color canary feed to euro goldfinch for its red color?

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:18 am
by eddie.chiao
jonvill wrote: Anna is correct, feeding (cantaxanthin) color-food will change the gold bars on the goldfinch's wings orange but if you wait till after the new wing feathers come in you can get away with it.
I prefer to feed greens (dandelion, kale and romaine) to my birds daily so that they can produce the red masks naturally.
If you can get them to eat carrots then you will benefit greatly.
Cooked carrots are better than raw carrots and they won't turn the gold wing bars orange. You might try a cooked carrot shredded and mixed into the eggfood.
Great thanks for the information.

Re: color canary feed to euro goldfinch for its red color?

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:50 am
by andiok
both Anna and jonvill gave you the right info which i totally agree.
on goldfinches/linnets and red fronted serins the best way to rich a perfect red is by adding natural carotenoids. both Canthaxanthin and betta caroten are carotenoids that are found in different plants. this is what a wonderful bird like goldfinch needs in his diet in order to create a red mask but in the same time not to ruin the beautiful yellow in his wings.

one thing to remember is that the only time that goldfinches can get the perfect red mask is when they molt. if not molting the carotenoids will do very little/nothing to the red feathers.
another big factor on the red mask is if they molt outdoors under sunshine.
now i will list you some plants that we use back in europe to get the goldfinches a perfect red mask

Safflower (Carthamus tinctorius L.)
Dandelion
Carduus
Portulaca oleracea
Carots
Red peper
etc..

good luck with your bird

Re: color canary feed to euro goldfinch for its red color?

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:45 pm
by eddie.chiao
andiok wrote: both Anna and jonvill gave you the right info which i totally agree.
on goldfinches/linnets and red fronted serins the best way to rich a perfect red is by adding natural carotenoids. both Canthaxanthin and betta caroten are carotenoids that are found in different plants. this is what a wonderful bird like goldfinch needs in his diet in order to create a red mask but in the same time not to ruin the beautiful yellow in his wings.

one thing to remember is that the only time that goldfinches can get the perfect red mask is when they molt. if not molting the carotenoids will do very little/nothing to the red feathers.
another big factor on the red mask is if they molt outdoors under sunshine.
now i will list you some plants that we use back in europe to get the goldfinches a perfect red mask

Safflower (Carthamus tinctorius L.)
Dandelion
Carduus
Portulaca oleracea
Carots
Red peper
etc..

good luck with your bird
Hi Andiok,
Thanks for your information, there are useful for me.
I am a new guy in goldfinch field.
One more question , what season is for GF molting?
Here Taiwan is in the beginning of Summer.
Great thanks!

Re: color canary feed to euro goldfinch for its red color?

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:52 pm
by Atbird
andiok wrote: both Anna and jonvill gave you the right info which i totally agree.
on goldfinches/linnets and red fronted serins the best way to rich a perfect red is by adding natural carotenoids. both Canthaxanthin and betta caroten are carotenoids that are found in different plants. this is what a wonderful bird like goldfinch needs in his diet in order to create a red mask but in the same time not to ruin the beautiful yellow in his wings.

one thing to remember is that the only time that goldfinches can get the perfect red mask is when they molt. if not molting the carotenoids will do very little/nothing to the red feathers.
another big factor on the red mask is if they molt outdoors under sunshine.
now i will list you some plants that we use back in europe to get the goldfinches a perfect red mask

Safflower (Carthamus tinctorius L.)
Dandelion
Carduus
Portulaca oleracea
Carots
Red peper
etc..

good luck with your bird
Thanks, I'll add those to my canary diet too