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Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:43 am**

andiok wrote: lovezebs
Those tiny cages are schooling cages. Those are the standard sizes recognized by the COM
After their first molt In a flight, males go through a 3-4 months school by listening to a maestro bird or CD player with your favourite song.
Their cages are placed in a schooling cabinet (a cardboard box in my case) to isolate them from listening to other bird voices other then your cd.

Here is an article from the western waterslager website
http://www.western-waterslager.com/Arti ... aining.htm

I ain't reading all of that

.....lol

But yes mate I fully agree with what yer say, spot on

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:51 am**

Stuart whiting wrote: I ain't reading all of that .....lol

hahahaha no you dont have to Stuart.

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:37 am**

andiok wrote: lovezebs
Sry just saw your question Elana.
Yes i have crossed linnets with canaries and goldfinches with the purpose of a better song.
Its very common to make hybrids with singing birds, especially with goldfinches.
You need lots of different spaces in your home to train different bird songs though because they shouldnt hear anything but the training song or training master (this would be your maestro teacher bird)

I have to say that i've always aimed to get a beautiful goldfinch song, so i could teach my young goldies that song. With linnets that was not possible because their mules with goldfinch or canary will add voices from their repertory as well and that defeats the purpose. But they are beautiful birds though.

here is a the linnet and his song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xyz1RXaGrcg

here is the mule with a canary singing as a goldfinch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lai1oBDbd_I

here is the mule with a goldfinch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vsqtSK1T80

The first one oh my God it is amazing im seeing a goldie with goldie-linnet combo. It is huge with large spectre of harmonics. I think this is the best combo to get the best mulet song goldie x linnet

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:48 am**

https://youtu.be/t-9epft8ryk
Have seen this Homocraduelis

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:38 pm**

haroun wrote: https://youtu.be/t-9epft8ryk
Have seen this Homocraduelis

ahhahahahahahaahhaa

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:39 pm**

lovezebs wrote: andiok

Not sure if I understand Andy,
You place them in tiny individual cages in a large cardboard box, and then what?

I read an article recently (I can't remember where, otherwise I'd link it) that said they learn best in the dark. It recommended moving them to the boxes, like Andy has suggested, and then slowly covering up the fronts over a few days to get them used to the dark. And then play the training music for a few hours every day, with them in the dark. They won't sing along, but they'll listen intently.

The Russian flute singers were trained in the same manner, but with flutes and similar noises.

I successfully trained one of my canaries by playing youtube videos for him in the mornings (without putting him in a small training cage) and he sings beautifully for me now.

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:43 pm**

haroun wrote: https://youtu.be/t-9epft8ryk
Have seen this Homocraduelis

Is this a new mutation? Lol

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:45 pm**

haroun

An interesting looking bird.....

and what a song !!!

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:50 pm**

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WczfYS1RByw
Lol, this Guy is the expert on decoding the goldie song. He classes the bird according to its melody notes. Go figure here in the capital algiers on a few miles around the eastern side goldies haven't the same notes as the southern or the westerns lol.

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:54 pm**

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VNuUo6sQX6Q
The notes well explained

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:07 pm**

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RzgciXHdtpc

Bearing and the repetitive notatipns

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EkKclb0RNB4
The passage notes

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:07 pm**

haroun wrote: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WczfYS1RByw
Lol, this Guy is the expert on decoding the goldie song. He classes the bird according to its melody notes. Go figure here in the capital algiers on a few miles around the eastern side goldies haven't the same notes as the southern or the westerns lol.

Understood every bit of that

PMSL

I definitely understood the Shi witty......chow, chow, chow bit

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:17 pm**

haroun

That's amazing that they have different songs from different areas.

Regarding the fellow in the first video, is he actually whisteling

those notes, or just listening?

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:55 pm**

Whisteling of Corse. Elana

And this oldman is whiqteling the wild caught goldie, we can cleary hear in the background a goldie replaying

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8MsBbwA1iek

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:26 pm**

Stuart whiting wrote:
haroun wrote: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WczfYS1RByw
Lol, this Guy is the expert on decoding the goldie song. He classes the bird according to its melody notes. Go figure here in the capital algiers on a few miles around the eastern side goldies haven't the same notes as the southern or the westerns lol.
Understood every bit of that PMSL

I definitely understood the Shi witty......chow, chow, chow bit

At 00:48 he spokes about the gallop note. Comnined to tiwawati

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