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Odd Color Java is male and molting

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:49 am
by Babs _Owner
My girl red-eyed "girl" Valla is starting to sing. #-o We renamed Valla to Valor. Some brown ticks are coming up on his head.

Valor below. Parents on the bottom. Still have no answers on how I got this mutation from the parents below.

Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:20 pm
by lovezebs
Babs

What a pretty little boy.

I'm so curious to see how he feathers out in tge end.

In regards to how come this chick popped out of these parents :-?? . There must be some throw back mutation in one or maybe both, which is not visible to the naked eye.... like my son coming along with red hair :shock: .

Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:45 pm
by Babs _Owner
lovezebs

I was a bit shocked its a male, as there is no "cap" difference of color on the top of the head. Even in fawn juvies you can see a difference on the top of the head, like the cap on the normals.

The only thing I can think of is mom /fawn (which I know) and dad is split/silver (maybe?)

He, his bother and sister are sitting on my head (ballcap) while I work right now.

Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:02 pm
by lovezebs
Babs

Cute mental picture :D .

The parents look normal in the picture (?)

His head colour can still change, especially with those spots coming in.

Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:50 pm
by Babs _Owner
lovezebs

OMG! Hahahaha!! You are right! =)) This poor poor child!

Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:08 am
by lovezebs
Babs

I remember my guys got all sorts of spots, that eventually grew and connected to form their colours as they matured.

Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:28 am
by Babs _Owner
lovezebs

Oh good. I'm hoping his spots turn into a nice brown cap, or we are gonna have to label him a spotted light fawn/opal red eyed pied whatcha-ma-call-it. ;))

Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:49 am
by lovezebs
Babs

I think they will eventually form a cap, as to what colour.... your guess is as good as mine, lol.

Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:04 am
by lem2bert
Babs

This little guy is just full of surprises isn't he !!! :o I cannot wait to see what he looks like when he is fully matured. :) He is very pretty !!

Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:14 am
by Sheather
He looks fawn to me.

There is a great variety in how young Javas look. Some come out solid colored, some have vestiges of their adult markings. The head looks like its going to molt out brown.

Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:55 am
by Fraza
He is sure unique I’ve never seen a Java look like that :mrgreen:

Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:49 pm
by Fraza
Hi whilst bird shopping today I noticed this java and just wondering if it could be the same mutation as yours when it goes through molt

Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:49 pm
by Fraza
This

Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:58 pm
by Dragonwolf1989
Valor looks like what my fawn Java looked like when she was a fledgling.

She was adorable though a bit timid, and it was a shame to see her lose the solid coloring. She now looks like what Fraza just posted.

PS. I didn't think about documenting my Javas when I got them last spring, so forgive for not providing evidence.

Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:31 am
by Babs _Owner
Dragonwolf1989

Does your girl have red eyes? Thats what is throwing me off. I only see creams and opal isabels (dilute fawn) with red eyes. I cant tell in the pictures I've poured through if the regular fawns have red eyes. And the primary java website resource looks like its almost been abandoned or inactive.

@Sheather

I have never felt so impatient waiting for a bird to color up as this one.

@Fraza

That is a regular fawn. Sure is a nice looking Java!