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Odd Color Java is male and molting
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:49 am
by Babs _Owner
My girl red-eyed "girl" Valla is starting to sing.

We renamed Valla to Valor. Some brown ticks are coming up on his head.
Valor below. Parents on the bottom. Still have no answers on how I got this mutation from the parents below.
Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:20 pm
by lovezebs
Babs
What a pretty little boy.
I'm so curious to see how he feathers out in tge end.
In regards to how come this chick popped out of these parents

. There must be some throw back mutation in one or maybe both, which is not visible to the naked eye.... like my son coming along with red hair

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Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:45 pm
by Babs _Owner
lovezebs
I was a bit shocked its a male, as there is no "cap" difference of color on the top of the head. Even in fawn juvies you can see a difference on the top of the head, like the cap on the normals.
The only thing I can think of is mom /fawn (which I know) and dad is split/silver (maybe?)
He, his bother and sister are sitting on my head (ballcap) while I work right now.
Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:02 pm
by lovezebs
Babs
Cute mental picture

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The parents look normal in the picture (?)
His head colour can still change, especially with those spots coming in.
Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:50 pm
by Babs _Owner
lovezebs
OMG! Hahahaha!! You are right!

This poor poor child!
Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:08 am
by lovezebs
Babs
I remember my guys got all sorts of spots, that eventually grew and connected to form their colours as they matured.
Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:28 am
by Babs _Owner
lovezebs
Oh good. I'm hoping his spots turn into a nice brown cap, or we are gonna have to label him a spotted light fawn/opal red eyed pied whatcha-ma-call-it.

Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:49 am
by lovezebs
Babs
I think they will eventually form a cap, as to what colour.... your guess is as good as mine, lol.
Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:04 am
by lem2bert
Babs
This little guy is just full of surprises isn't he !!!

I cannot wait to see what he looks like when he is fully matured.

He is very pretty !!
Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:14 am
by Sheather
He looks fawn to me.
There is a great variety in how young Javas look. Some come out solid colored, some have vestiges of their adult markings. The head looks like its going to molt out brown.
Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:55 am
by Fraza
He is sure unique I’ve never seen a Java look like that

Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:49 pm
by Fraza
Hi whilst bird shopping today I noticed this java and just wondering if it could be the same mutation as yours when it goes through molt
Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:49 pm
by Fraza
This
Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:58 pm
by Dragonwolf1989
Valor looks like what my fawn Java looked like when she was a fledgling.
She was adorable though a bit timid, and it was a shame to see her lose the solid coloring. She now looks like what Fraza just posted.
PS. I didn't think about documenting my Javas when I got them last spring, so forgive for not providing evidence.
Re: Odd Color Java is male and molting
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:31 am
by Babs _Owner
Dragonwolf1989
Does your girl have red eyes? Thats what is throwing me off. I only see creams and opal isabels (dilute fawn) with red eyes. I cant tell in the pictures I've poured through if the regular fawns have red eyes. And the primary java website resource looks like its almost been abandoned or inactive.
@Sheather
I have never felt so impatient waiting for a bird to color up as this one.
@Fraza
That is a regular fawn. Sure is a nice looking Java!