might sound stupid but what’s a single factor pied society
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might sound stupid but what’s a single factor pied society
I like the self society’s and have two of them a cock self fret pearl and a heb which is self chocolate society and to breed them with pied ones and get a self out of them I know I need a single factor pied and I have a few pied but unsure if they are single favtot ????
Could someone describe or add a picture of a single factor compared to a normal pied one
It’s a struggle here to find selfs and the reason I want to breed the male and hen to pied instead of each other is so I can keep the self hens of the female one and then I can keep the cock selfs of the male one and breed them so they aren’t related this way I can keep them and start selling my pied
This link is identical to my female self :http://www.hwbbs.co.uk/resources/_wsb_4 ... r+2013.JPG
And the pic below is my male :
Could someone describe or add a picture of a single factor compared to a normal pied one
It’s a struggle here to find selfs and the reason I want to breed the male and hen to pied instead of each other is so I can keep the self hens of the female one and then I can keep the cock selfs of the male one and breed them so they aren’t related this way I can keep them and start selling my pied
This link is identical to my female self :http://www.hwbbs.co.uk/resources/_wsb_4 ... r+2013.JPG
And the pic below is my male :
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Re: might sound stupid but what’s a single factor pied socie
Hey, no question is stupid here! This is what our forum is for ;)
Unfortunately, I do not know the answer to your question, but I think you may find what you’re looking for in some of our older topics. You can use key words with the search button on the top right. There is a wealth of information you can find!
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Re: might sound stupid but what’s a single factor pied socie
Single-factors often have some color left on their chests; they seem to be under 40% white.
Here are some single-factors I used to have:
If I were you, I would buy pied birds with hardly any white, like this one. They are more likely to be single-factor pieds.
Adult single-factors often have belly scaling.
Double-factors are usually around 50% white. Saddlebacks often have more white than this.
Here are my previous double-factors, probably saddlebacks:
However, there are exceptions, so it's hard to know for sure.
This bird was almost certainly single-factor pied, but looked more like a double-factor:
Here are some single-factors I used to have:
If I were you, I would buy pied birds with hardly any white, like this one. They are more likely to be single-factor pieds.
Adult single-factors often have belly scaling.
Double-factors are usually around 50% white. Saddlebacks often have more white than this.
Here are my previous double-factors, probably saddlebacks:
However, there are exceptions, so it's hard to know for sure.
This bird was almost certainly single-factor pied, but looked more like a double-factor:
Last edited by Icearstorm on Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:07 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: might sound stupid but what’s a single factor pied socie
delray Igbo yeh I always forget about searching older topics
FINCHES I HAVE
Bengalese
zebras
Java sparrows
Silver bills
java x beng hybrid
PETS IVE HAD
dogs
Fish
Cocktiel
Doves
Hybrid cherry x Bengalese
Stars
Heck’s
Canary’s
My favourite is COCO my grey pearl society cock been here since the start my flock leader
YOUTUBE CHANNEL
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Bengalese
zebras
Java sparrows
Silver bills
java x beng hybrid
PETS IVE HAD
dogs
Fish
Cocktiel
Doves
Hybrid cherry x Bengalese
Stars
Heck’s
Canary’s
My favourite is COCO my grey pearl society cock been here since the start my flock leader
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Re: might sound stupid but what’s a single factor pied socie
Icearstorm thank you u have helped there I do have one single factor pied and then one double factor in this case then and luckily coco is paired with the single faction and my other pied male is with my double factor
Thanks I actually think it was you who told me about the single factor making selfs
Then I have two white hens to breed with the pearl do u now what this would make by any chance or is it random
Thanks I actually think it was you who told me about the single factor making selfs
Then I have two white hens to breed with the pearl do u now what this would make by any chance or is it random
FINCHES I HAVE
Bengalese
zebras
Java sparrows
Silver bills
java x beng hybrid
PETS IVE HAD
dogs
Fish
Cocktiel
Doves
Hybrid cherry x Bengalese
Stars
Heck’s
Canary’s
My favourite is COCO my grey pearl society cock been here since the start my flock leader
YOUTUBE CHANNEL
https://m.youtube.com/results?q=fraser% ... de101&sm=3
Bengalese
zebras
Java sparrows
Silver bills
java x beng hybrid
PETS IVE HAD
dogs
Fish
Cocktiel
Doves
Hybrid cherry x Bengalese
Stars
Heck’s
Canary’s
My favourite is COCO my grey pearl society cock been here since the start my flock leader
YOUTUBE CHANNEL
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Re: might sound stupid but what’s a single factor pied socie
Fraza
If the white ones have dark eyes, then they are double-factor pied and will not produce any self offspring. Your birds are probably dark-eyed whites.
If they are albino and have pink eyes, then it's probably impossible to tell if they are pied without breeding them, though they will pass on a recessive albino allele (not the same gene as pied/self).
There's also another red-eyed white, sometimes called a cream ino. I don't know much about these, but it says that ino is sex-linked recessive, and decended from self birds. (Whether or not the gene affects the pied gene, I don't know.)
If the white ones have dark eyes, then they are double-factor pied and will not produce any self offspring. Your birds are probably dark-eyed whites.
If they are albino and have pink eyes, then it's probably impossible to tell if they are pied without breeding them, though they will pass on a recessive albino allele (not the same gene as pied/self).
There's also another red-eyed white, sometimes called a cream ino. I don't know much about these, but it says that ino is sex-linked recessive, and decended from self birds. (Whether or not the gene affects the pied gene, I don't know.)
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Re: might sound stupid but what’s a single factor pied socie
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@Fraza have u check out this time to time i go there to learn lol
@Fraza have u check out this time to time i go there to learn lol
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Re: might sound stupid but what’s a single factor pied socie
Icearstorm okay thanks and yeh they are both dark eyed and one has a created head, and I actually had a red eye one but sold it
Thanks anyway that’s helped
Thanks anyway that’s helped
FINCHES I HAVE
Bengalese
zebras
Java sparrows
Silver bills
java x beng hybrid
PETS IVE HAD
dogs
Fish
Cocktiel
Doves
Hybrid cherry x Bengalese
Stars
Heck’s
Canary’s
My favourite is COCO my grey pearl society cock been here since the start my flock leader
YOUTUBE CHANNEL
https://m.youtube.com/results?q=fraser% ... de101&sm=3
Bengalese
zebras
Java sparrows
Silver bills
java x beng hybrid
PETS IVE HAD
dogs
Fish
Cocktiel
Doves
Hybrid cherry x Bengalese
Stars
Heck’s
Canary’s
My favourite is COCO my grey pearl society cock been here since the start my flock leader
YOUTUBE CHANNEL
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Re: might sound stupid but what’s a single factor pied socie
haroun I will this time haha I’m actually going to read them now lol
FINCHES I HAVE
Bengalese
zebras
Java sparrows
Silver bills
java x beng hybrid
PETS IVE HAD
dogs
Fish
Cocktiel
Doves
Hybrid cherry x Bengalese
Stars
Heck’s
Canary’s
My favourite is COCO my grey pearl society cock been here since the start my flock leader
YOUTUBE CHANNEL
https://m.youtube.com/results?q=fraser% ... de101&sm=3
Bengalese
zebras
Java sparrows
Silver bills
java x beng hybrid
PETS IVE HAD
dogs
Fish
Cocktiel
Doves
Hybrid cherry x Bengalese
Stars
Heck’s
Canary’s
My favourite is COCO my grey pearl society cock been here since the start my flock leader
YOUTUBE CHANNEL
https://m.youtube.com/results?q=fraser% ... de101&sm=3