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Gender?

Post by FinchLover&Breeder » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:08 pm

Hey guys it's me Nick again. About a week or so ago I bought my first ever society finch. There were a few of you guys that said my society is a male. I was wondering how to tell the gender of society finches because I might follow advice and get a female. I would love to get a female for my male society but I have no clue how to tell the gender difference in society finches. Can any of you guys help me? Also recommended mutations to get for perfect pair would be great. Can't wait for you guys to respond.

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Re: Gender?

Post by Hilary » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:18 pm

Males sing and females lay eggs. :lol: If you do a search I'm sure you'll find a lot of threads on the same subject. Your best bet is to buy from a trusted breeder who has already identified the gender (based on the singing/egg laying criteria).
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Re: Gender?

Post by FinchLover&Breeder » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:19 pm

Hilary
Thanks. But what about buying from a store? How then?

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Re: Gender?

Post by Hilary » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:04 pm

You're kind of taking your chances in that case. If you wanted a male you could sit and watch for somebody to sing, but obviously that's not going to work with a female. Some say males have a bigger/sturdier-looking beak than females, but since it's all relative I personally trust that just a bit more than the "wave a crystal over the head" approach with societies (if the crystal circles in one direction it's a male and if in the other it's a female).

Are you sure you want a female? They're just as happy with same-sex buddies, and societies are just as prolific as zebras - you'd soon have societies coming out of your ears if you're not careful.
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Re: Gender?

Post by FinchLover&Breeder » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:50 pm

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I'm sure I want a girl for my male. The more birds the better.

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Re: Gender?

Post by Flight Feathers » Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:36 pm

Apparently male and female societies both make a slightly different noise. Not sure tho as I've never had a society. I'm looking for an unrelated pair at the moment tho.
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Re: Gender?

Post by Sally » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:35 am

FinchLover&Breeder wrote: Hilary
I'm sure I want a girl for my male. The more birds the better.


But are you ready for many more birds? The more birds the better only works if you have cages ready for them or places where you can rehome any babies. It is easy to breed them, but often difficult to find homes for the babies. With any species that is easy to breed, there are many, many other breeders who are also trying to get rid of their excess birds. The responsible thing to do is to have a plan in place to deal with any offspring. Otherwise, it is not fair to the birds.
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Re: Gender?

Post by Flight Feathers » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:16 pm

Sally wrote:
FinchLover&Breeder wrote: Hilary
I'm sure I want a girl for my male. The more birds the better.


But are you ready for many more birds? The more birds the better only works if you have cages ready for them or places where you can rehome any babies. It is easy to breed them, but often difficult to find homes for the babies. With any species that is easy to breed, there are many, many other breeders who are also trying to get rid of their excess birds. The responsible thing to do is to have a plan in place to deal with any offspring. Otherwise, it is not fair to the birds.
Wow! I guess over hear birds in are such high demand. I mean I can't even find any societies over here because they're obviously always gone as soon as they get to the pet shop. And the zebra finches always sell out so quick. The pet shop has asked me a few times if they can buy Zebs off me and the last time I sold them to them they'd run out.
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Re: Gender?

Post by Hilary » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:29 pm

The larger pet shops around here all have societies and zebras if they have any finches, as do the animal shelters. I got my first societies (and only zebras) at the local shelter. The more birds the better sounds great until you need to find somebody to take care of them while on vacation, start running out of cage space (or time to clean all of those cages), or leave for college or otherwise move. :)
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Re: Gender?

Post by Flight Feathers » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:00 pm

Hilary wrote: The larger pet shops around here all have societies and zebras if they have any finches, as do the animal shelters. I got my first societies (and only zebras) at the local shelter. The more birds the better sounds great until you need to find somebody to take care of them while on vacation, start running out of cage space (or time to clean all of those cages), or leave for college or otherwise move. :)
Oh okay yeah, over here birds sell out sooo fast. So it's extremely easy to sell birds over here.
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Re: Gender?

Post by Fraza » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:08 pm

Hi I find it quite easy now and you can also tell by the stance sometimes I’ll wrtie u a little list

Males :
Have a short sharp tweet
Stand up straighter with the tail pointing about 90 degrees looking more dominant
There eyes are straight in line with their line in the beak
They sing

Female :
Make a pre sound like pree pree
Look abit more relaxed
There eyes are slightly above the lining of beak
Don’t sing
There tails seem to just sit pointing down wards

Hope this helps some people might not agree or think thiese are right but I get my sexes 95% right even when they are chicks by using these little facts has ur one sang yet because they normally do within the first day
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My favourite is COCO my grey pearl society cock been here since the start my flock leader


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Re: Gender?

Post by Fraza » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:12 pm

FINCHES I HAVE
Bengalese
zebras
Java sparrows
Silver bills
java x beng hybrid



PETS IVE HAD
dogs
Fish
Cocktiel
Doves
Hybrid cherry x Bengalese
Stars
Heck’s
Canary’s

My favourite is COCO my grey pearl society cock been here since the start my flock leader


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Re: Gender?

Post by delray » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:24 pm

FinchLover&Breeder I have 2 male society finches and they are the absolute best pets. They get along, sing and i don’t have to worry about breeding! If you are going to get another one, first confirm the gender of this new bird.
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Re: Gender?

Post by Flight Feathers » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:41 pm

This is very interesting! So that tail thing is always right? And do you have a video of the difference between chirps?
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Re: Gender?

Post by Fraza » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:20 am

Flight Feathers I do have videos but you can’t upload hear when u actually have one female and one Male that’s when you can really notice the difference in tweet and u really hear the peer in the girls

Whe I buy from pet shops I play a video of coco singing and I see the girls tweeting and looking around and then you hear loads of peer sounds then I see who seems to make the longest pree

And the tail thing seems to work for me but some females can have pushed up tails through sitting close to bars of cage so it isn’t always accurate
FINCHES I HAVE
Bengalese
zebras
Java sparrows
Silver bills
java x beng hybrid



PETS IVE HAD
dogs
Fish
Cocktiel
Doves
Hybrid cherry x Bengalese
Stars
Heck’s
Canary’s

My favourite is COCO my grey pearl society cock been here since the start my flock leader


YOUTUBE CHANNEL
https://m.youtube.com/results?q=fraser% ... de101&sm=3

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