gouldian head question

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gouldian head question

Post by yargnits » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:19 pm

If we bred a red head with another red head would we get red head chicks ? I have a feeling its no but without having specific answeres im just "thinking my way along"

We have bred zebras for some time but wanted giuldians when we saw how beautifull they were.
after more than a year of searching we finally have some but we still have lots of questions l. I hope the lovley people on this forum will point us in the right direction :-) .

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Re: gouldian head question

Post by debbie276 » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:54 pm

2 RH's will give you RH chicks unless there are hidden genes you are unaware of :)

Best of luck
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Green
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Pastel (Yellow)
Blue
SF Pastel Blue (SF Yellow Blue)
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https://mickaboo.org/confluence/downloa ... ummary.pdf
http://www.naturallighting.com/cart/sto ... sc_page=56

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Re: gouldian head question

Post by 608duj » Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:27 pm

check out the excellent http://www.finchbreederdatabase.com/php ... cies_id=29 which gives you genetic predictions both geno and phono.

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Re: gouldian head question

Post by debbie276 » Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:00 am

A very good place to learn the genetics is Tiffany's site at http://www.gouldiansgalore.com/ She explains things quite well and even has a reverse genetics area.

Also the Finch Information Center has a good genetics area
http://www.finchinfo.com/genetics/lady_ ... /index.php

good luck
Debbie
long time breeder of lady gouldians:
Green
SF Pastel (SF Yellow)
Pastel (Yellow)
Blue
SF Pastel Blue (SF Yellow Blue)
Pastel Blue (Yellow Blue)

GREAT articles on avian lighting:
https://mickaboo.org/confluence/downloa ... ummary.pdf
http://www.naturallighting.com/cart/sto ... sc_page=56

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Re: gouldian head question

Post by debbie276 » Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:07 am

608duj wrote: check out the excellent http://www.finchbreederdatabase.com/php ... cies_id=29 which gives you genetic predictions both geno and phono.
In that calculator it looks like you can only get australian yellow results and not the yellow body we have here :?
Debbie
long time breeder of lady gouldians:
Green
SF Pastel (SF Yellow)
Pastel (Yellow)
Blue
SF Pastel Blue (SF Yellow Blue)
Pastel Blue (Yellow Blue)

GREAT articles on avian lighting:
https://mickaboo.org/confluence/downloa ... ummary.pdf
http://www.naturallighting.com/cart/sto ... sc_page=56

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Re: gouldian head question

Post by yargnits » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:52 am

Thank you. I couldnt get on the genetics tab at gouldians galore but it could be because im using my phone.
The other sites look good though and ive saved thrm so I can check back.

The parents are red (although I need to check what orange are :-D ) but I wasnt expecting yellow chicks and i dont know what the adults parents were. so I think its going to be more of a lucky dip. Will be nice to find out anyhow.

Thanks again :-)

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Re: gouldian head question

Post by debbie276 » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:51 pm

YH (orange) always have yellow tipped beaks rather then red :)
Debbie
long time breeder of lady gouldians:
Green
SF Pastel (SF Yellow)
Pastel (Yellow)
Blue
SF Pastel Blue (SF Yellow Blue)
Pastel Blue (Yellow Blue)

GREAT articles on avian lighting:
https://mickaboo.org/confluence/downloa ... ummary.pdf
http://www.naturallighting.com/cart/sto ... sc_page=56

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Re: gouldian head question

Post by debbie276 » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:53 pm

Just a note, unless you have Australian yellows that link that 608duj posted to a calculator isn't going to help you.
Debbie
long time breeder of lady gouldians:
Green
SF Pastel (SF Yellow)
Pastel (Yellow)
Blue
SF Pastel Blue (SF Yellow Blue)
Pastel Blue (Yellow Blue)

GREAT articles on avian lighting:
https://mickaboo.org/confluence/downloa ... ummary.pdf
http://www.naturallighting.com/cart/sto ... sc_page=56

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Re: gouldian head question

Post by yargnits » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:59 pm

Lol. I have no idea what the difference is.
Im in the uk and I thought all gouldians came from australia.
Ive learnt alot in the last few weeks but with so many sources it can get a bit muddled and relevant info lost in masses of text etc.

I appreciate the help :-)

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Re: gouldian head question

Post by debbie276 » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:58 pm

If you get a chance you could post pictures of your birds and we could all have a stab at what they are to help you out. :)
Debbie
long time breeder of lady gouldians:
Green
SF Pastel (SF Yellow)
Pastel (Yellow)
Blue
SF Pastel Blue (SF Yellow Blue)
Pastel Blue (Yellow Blue)

GREAT articles on avian lighting:
https://mickaboo.org/confluence/downloa ... ummary.pdf
http://www.naturallighting.com/cart/sto ... sc_page=56

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Re: gouldian head question

Post by yargnits » Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:42 pm

thanks for all the help.

none of the birds have yellow tips to their beaks so i guess they must be red head. i dont really know what difference it makes though, do they have different chicks like the dilute male ?

getting pics of the birds is hard especially since ours are in cages but i got a few of the male and the female he seems to be interested in. (should be included if i did it right ).
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Re: gouldian head question

Post by debbie276 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 3:16 pm

In the pictures I see a RH.PB male and BH.PB hen
pretty :)
Debbie
long time breeder of lady gouldians:
Green
SF Pastel (SF Yellow)
Pastel (Yellow)
Blue
SF Pastel Blue (SF Yellow Blue)
Pastel Blue (Yellow Blue)

GREAT articles on avian lighting:
https://mickaboo.org/confluence/downloa ... ummary.pdf
http://www.naturallighting.com/cart/sto ... sc_page=56

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Re: gouldian head question

Post by yargnits » Sun Jun 29, 2014 4:43 pm

I take it that if this black head female and dilute male breed we would get a mix of black heads and red heads ?

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Re: gouldian head question

Post by debbie276 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:00 pm

All chicks will be RH with the male chicks also being split to BH
Debbie
long time breeder of lady gouldians:
Green
SF Pastel (SF Yellow)
Pastel (Yellow)
Blue
SF Pastel Blue (SF Yellow Blue)
Pastel Blue (Yellow Blue)

GREAT articles on avian lighting:
https://mickaboo.org/confluence/downloa ... ummary.pdf
http://www.naturallighting.com/cart/sto ... sc_page=56

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Re: gouldian head question

Post by yargnits » Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:59 am

Here is another. im guessing its normal red head but the blue looks much lighter in this male than the other.
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