HOW CAN I PRODUCE THIS GOULDIAN

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HOW CAN I PRODUCE THIS GOULDIAN

Post by karenstr » Mon May 08, 2017 11:02 am

Can anyone maybe tell me please how to produce a beautiful Gouldian like this one please :) would i need a RH WC BB MALE AND A PURE WHITE FEMALE ? please if anyone knows ill appreciate it so much
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Re: HOW CAN I PRODUCE THIS GOULDIAN

Post by lovezebs » Mon May 08, 2017 1:28 pm

karenstr

I'll tag debbie for you, she might have an explanation for you regarding this particular bird.

It is a lovely looking individual, where does the picture come from?
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Re: HOW CAN I PRODUCE THIS GOULDIAN

Post by karenstr » Mon May 08, 2017 2:58 pm

it was an owner on facebooks bird ive asked him but saw he passed away recently.. poor man.. i would really like to breed a bird like this one .. ive noticed you and Debbie knows best thank you

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Post by debbie276 » Mon May 08, 2017 3:57 pm

The bird in the picture looks to be a RedHead OR YellowHead (you can't tell with that mutation).WhiteBreast OR LilacBeast (I can't see clearly in that picture). Single Factor Pastel Blue

So to get a bird like that You would need to pass on WhiteBreast gene or LilacBreast gene from the parents. If you are using 2 WB then you will get a WB chick. If you are using 1 WB and 1 LB or 2 LB parents you will get LilacBreast chick.
To get SF Pastel Blue chick you will need to pass on 1 Pastel gene and 2 Blue genes which can be done with a few combinations.

FYI, a "pure white hen" is genetically a BlackHead.WhiteBreast.Pastel Blue
You could use a Blue hen with a SF Pastel Blue male to get that chick also
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SF Pastel Blue (SF Yellow Blue)
Pastel Blue (Yellow Blue)

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https://mickaboo.org/confluence/downloa ... ummary.pdf
http://www.naturallighting.com/cart/sto ... sc_page=56

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Re: HOW CAN I PRODUCE THIS GOULDIAN

Post by lovezebs » Mon May 08, 2017 6:11 pm

karenstr

Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I'm afraid I'm quite useless when it comes to genetics, and really know very little about it, sorry :( .
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Post by Vera » Mon May 08, 2017 9:53 pm

Oh how pretty. I'd be happy if I could get a blue one!

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Re: HOW CAN I PRODUCE THIS GOULDIAN

Post by karenstr » Tue May 09, 2017 2:42 am

so i cant use a white hen for the pastel cock because the white hens head colour is actually black? so the only way i will be able to produce this bird is with a pastel cock and bb hen is that correct? i luckily have 2 pastel cock babies in the nest atm i think :)

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Post by debbie276 » Tue May 09, 2017 5:52 am

so i cant use a white hen for the pastel cock because the white hens head colour is actually black?
a "pure white hen" is genetically a BlackHead.WhiteBreast.Pastel Blue
and can be used, was just letting you know what the genetic make up is.
so the only way i will be able to produce this bird is with a pastel cock and bb hen is that correct?
You would need a SF Pastel Blue male with a Blue hen both being WhiteBreast.
You need to pass on a Pastel gene and 2 Blue genes.
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Green
SF Pastel (SF Yellow)
Pastel (Yellow)
Blue
SF Pastel Blue (SF Yellow Blue)
Pastel Blue (Yellow Blue)

GREAT articles on avian lighting:
https://mickaboo.org/confluence/downloa ... ummary.pdf
http://www.naturallighting.com/cart/sto ... sc_page=56

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Re: HOW CAN I PRODUCE THIS GOULDIAN

Post by karenstr » Tue May 09, 2017 9:30 am

thank you so much for all the advice Debbie appreciate it a lot you know best :) thanks

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