advice needed RF parrot finch

[Diamond Sparrow]

Good recomendations Kenny.
When birds become stressed this can bring out coccidiosis

[ruler]

kenny66 your advice has been spot on and i am so greatful for your help on here.
my cages are 4ft long by 2ft high wooden box type breeding cages and are stacked on top of each other (3 in total) so im guessing i will have to clean all 3 cages since they all touch one another. tomorrow morning i will clean every cage and all its dishes. i will do this 2 - 3 times a week for the next few weeks to be on the safe side. the cages have large drawers on the bottom so i am guessing this is a bad idea as someone else said drawers attract many problems and it produces excellent hiding places for them.
parrot finches looooove water and are bathing constantly thus making the cage 'very wet' so you are definatly correct about humidity and dampness. im so glad to know she will make a good recovery, she is a beautiful bird. i appreciate everyone elses comments and advice too it all helps and is all more than welcome. thank you all

[Diamond Sparrow]

With my bird waterers and feeders for the parrot finches I have them sitting on top of a kitty litter tray that has mesh secured over the top of it .
That way if they spill or flick water or seed most of it ends up in the tray not in the bottom of the aviary floor.
I then wash out these trays once a week

[kenny66]

kenny66 your advice has been spot on and i am so greatful for your help on here.
my cages are 4ft long by 2ft high wooden box type breeding cages and are stacked on top of each other (3 in total) so im guessing i will have to clean all 3 cages since they all touch one another. tomorrow morning i will clean every cage and all its dishes. i will do this 2 - 3 times a week for the next few weeks to be on the safe side. the cages have large drawers on the bottom so i am guessing this is a bad idea as someone else said drawers attract many problems timeand it produces excellent hiding places for them.
parrot finches looooove water and are bathing constantly thus making the cage 'very wet' so you are definatly correct about humidity and dampness. im so glad to know she will make a good recovery, she is a beautiful bird. i appreciate everyone elses comments and advice too it all helps and is all more than welcome. thank you all

dont overstress about cleanliness regime. Clean your cages once and provided you have removed the bedding and perches and replaced them, that is fine. You must understand that most birds carry this bug but it is normally supressed. A number of isses can activate it as I said such as stress during breeding-wet and humid conditions and for some,unknown reasons get it from time to time.. It is not something you have done or not taken care of. Even the most well run aviaries get it from time to time. I know about the RFPF love of water but provided the bedding is not soaked constantly that should not be a problem, Most finches would probaably show a positive result in their poo sample, the only issue is when th numbers build up, You can give the birdies baycox every 3 months as preventative @3ml/ltr of water for 48 hrs or Coccivet @ 3ml/lt water for 5-7 days (bit of a chore). Your cage sizes are fine.

[kenny66]

kenny66 your advice has been spot on and i am so greatful for your help on here.
my cages are 4ft long by 2ft high wooden box type breeding cages and are stacked on top of each other (3 in total) so im guessing i will have to clean all 3 cages since they all touch one another. tomorrow morning i will clean every cage and all its dishes. i will do this 2 - 3 times a week for the next few weeks to be on the safe side. the cages have large drawers on the bottom so i am guessing this is a bad idea as someone else said drawers attract many problems timeand it produces excellent hiding places for them.
parrot finches looooove water and are bathing constantly thus making the cage 'very wet' so you are definatly correct about humidity and dampness. im so glad to know she will make a good recovery, she is a beautiful bird. i appreciate everyone elses comments and advice too it all helps and is all more than welcome. thank you all

dont overstress about cleanliness regime. Clean your cages once and provided you have removed the bedding and perches and replaced them, that is fine. You must understand that most birds carry this bug but it is normally supressed. A number of isses can activate it as I said such as stress during breeding-wet and humid conditions and for some other unknown reasons get it .. It is not something you have done or not taken care of. Even the most well run aviaries get it from time to time. I know about the RFPF love of water but provided the bedding is not soaked constantly that should not be a problem, Most finches would probably show a positive result in their poo sample, the only issue is when th numbers build up, You can give the birdies baycox every 3 months as preventative @3ml/ltr of water for 48 hrs or Coccivet @ 3ml/lt water for 5-7 days (bit of a chore). Your cage sizes are fine.

[DanteD716]

Glad everything turned out okay!

[ruler]

yey finally got some medicine for my little birdy the vet got me some Baycox which is to be mixed at 3ml per 1 litre (kenny66 was right) and i will start her on that tomorrow first thing when i change their water. im gonna also clean out all cages too just to be on the safe side.
i was given enough to make up 5 litres which should last me about 5 weeks. i will get more if needed.
i am going to stop her Zolcal-D treatment and just give her plain water while being on this treatment as i am unsure if it is ok to give her both. will keep you all updated on her progress

thanks

[kenny66]

Baycox only and make sure you make it up fresh each day

[ruler]

the vet told me to give it to her twice a week and only fresh water on days when no treatment. it must be having some effect as i have noticed she has started eating cucumber again, maybe Baycox makes her feel a little dehydrated? i have also noticed her appitite in general is a little better
she just looks a little lonely on her own she is still pretty wobbly on her perch but i guess its still early days yet. im not sure how long it takes to show any signs of improvement but so far i only see her eating habits getting better. i always give my birds fresh water everyday and i have always cleaned all their food and drinking dishes out on a daily basis.

[finchmix22]

That's great you're seeing some improvement. Once they start eating, they get their strength back and then, their body heals more quickly. Just keep watching for any changes.

[ruler]

i dont understand why the vet told me to give it to her only twice a week. i was expecting them to tell me to give it to her everyday.

[finchmix22]

The frequency may depend on the dosage and type of med he is diluting to administer.

[ruler]

ah thanks, one other question i did forget to ask...
i was told to give this stuff to all my birds as a precaution but some have very young chicks in the nest, would it be safe for them too? my guess is that they might be too young or i could treat them with the parents seperatly when they fledge the nest?

[kenny66]

There are really varying views on this. Some say no until chicks are weaned-others treat all through breeding. The Moxidectin manufacturers here do not recommend treatment with chicks in the nest because the treatment inhibits the begging response in young chicks. Many use during breeding but I prefer not to.

[ruler]

thanks kenny i will wait until they have fledged and weened before i treat them then just to be on the safe side the parrot finch has had her 2nd dose today and to be honist i personally think there is some improvements already. she is eating a lot more now and i see she is eating her veg now as well. she is still wobbly on her perch but i dont think she is quite as bad as before but i guess it is debatable. the poor little girl looks so lonely but i know it is for her own good.

she spends a lot of time in her nesting box with her head leaning out so she can see whats going on. oh the vet weighed her and she was dead on 15 grams in weight so im hoping it is the right weight for her but the vet said she is slightly under weight. she still riffles her rear feathers a lot too but i know it is still early days yet.