Hidden black cheek split?

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Hidden black cheek split?

Post by LuxandLolita » Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:17 am

So i am trying to figure out if one of my finches' offspring(if you remember her, Falcon) is split to black cheek. She has quite the thick tears compared to both Lux and Lolita. I will be posting pictures as well, Gus and Falcon live with my neighbor now:)
Just to let you know, FALCON is the one i think is split
Falcon is the little girl facing the camera Gus looking down
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You can See falcon in this one Gus is kinda..blacked out haha
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Falcon is to the right, Gus to the left
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Any comments???
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Re: Hidden black cheek split?

Post by LuxandLolita » Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:54 am

Here is like two more pictures
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With the flash washing her tear out a bit....
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Re: Hidden black cheek split?

Post by LuxandLolita » Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:47 pm

I forgot i should post pictures of the parents to... SORRY!!! i hope these pics help!
Lux is the male, Gus as a baby to the left :)
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Lolita is to the direct right to lux, Lux and Lolita are the parents.

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Re: Hidden black cheek split?

Post by cindy » Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:52 pm

to me she looks normal gray....some BC split females have smudges of black in the breast area. The true way to determine if she is split to BC is pair her with another full visual BC or a split to BC male.

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Re: Hidden black cheek split?

Post by LuxandLolita » Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:42 pm

thanks! I wanted to post pictures, couldn't do it through PM so i posted here.

Her tear though is so thick.. maybe thats normal and my finches tears have always been thinner?
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Re: Hidden black cheek split?

Post by Vargur » Sat May 12, 2012 3:47 pm

here is one of my females, normal grey split bc and isabel

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Vargs Þorri og Bríet by Elma_Ben, on Flickr

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Butti by Elma_Ben, on Flickr
male split bc and isabel

I always get beautiful chicks from them.

If the tear is thicker or is bended inwards like this ( or if the female have
black smudges in the chest area and if a male have black in his flank area,
the they are split BC.

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Vargs Þorri og Vargs ónefndur by Elma_Ben, on Flickr
male split BC

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Nyx by Elma_Ben, on Flickr
female split BC

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Re: Hidden black cheek split?

Post by DanteD716 » Sat May 12, 2012 4:27 pm

I do not think they are as thick as the split BC i have experience with. Elma's last picture is a great example
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Re: Hidden black cheek split?

Post by Angeldov222 » Sat May 12, 2012 4:40 pm

LuxandLolita wrote:I forgot i should post pictures of the parents to... SORRY!!! i hope these pics help!
Lux is the male, Gus as a baby to the left :)
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Lolita is to the direct right to lux, Lux and Lolita are the parents.

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Re: Hidden black cheek split?

Post by LuxandLolita » Sun May 13, 2012 10:10 pm

I REALLY don't know if this counts, BUT Tahny has been being plucked on the side of the face, So i took her out to separate her from the parents(they are hormonal and trying to nest again)
And i was just checking her over for damage(there was none :) )
but in the midst of it, i noticed in the chest ONE feather had a TINY tiny black end of it. does that count? you can't see it unless you look VERY close

Also, in a lot of splits to BC, The tear marks go way past the beak, Falcon still has her very long tears, she was the one i was reffering to because her tear is thicker then the others and it goes way down past the beak

By the way, Vargur-what a pretty girl :)
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