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Post by 30 Seconds to Bob » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:59 am

I guess that accidents don't happen to perfect people. Ditto on the well said, fhgwgads! (coming from someone who has had a bird injured in a totally inconceivable way) Bob


I probably should have elaborated on this the other day. My canary lost a foot after his band got caught on one of those fabricated wicker nests designed for canaries. Those things have been around for canaries for over 100 years. Innocent enough? Bob
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Re: Amputate or What should I do ????? Need advice !!

Post by Sally » Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:57 am

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So glad to hear. You will see, he will be fine and can enjoy a long life. Yes, these little finches are smart when it comes to adapting to whatever life throws at them.
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Post by Nanajennie » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:21 pm

30 Seconds to Bob thats amazing info BOB!

I agree Sally resilient, strong and amazing
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Post by tt101 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:16 pm

Im glad everything tuned out well with the little guy...accidents happen and you can never prevent them no matter what you do. No one wants their kids falling down the stairs or to slip on water on the floor either. The good part is that you have allowed him to continue living and honestly i don't think anyone should ever euthanize an animal....not trying to force my religion on anyone but my belief is that God will take them when he is ready and its not up to us.

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Post by fhgwgads » Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:50 pm

30 Seconds to Bob just goes to show that no matter how careful we are things happen. My little girl Terminator got out.. And I closed the bathroom door, turned off the lights, got a spray bottle and cautiously chased her to get her back in the cage but she hurt herself by flying along the ceiling and must have singed her head on one of the recessed lights. I had the lights off for at least ten minutes before I tried to get her and didn't even think something like that would happen. It doesn't mean I was being careless or intended to hurt her. I did my best to be careful, not hurt her, and get her back to safety.

I generally do not believe in euthanasia but I once had a parakeet who was very sick with a large cancerous tumor and was in a lot of pain and clearly suffering. I had brought her to the vet and the pot her under anesthesia and were not able to help her and she was not going to make it so they euthanized her while she was still under so she would not have to suffer at all. They were very humane about it, though I was still devastated. J wouldn't have wanted her to suffer a painful death. All of my other birds have never been euthanized.

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Post by fhgwgads » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:01 pm

I also just want to mention everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I believe we all are looking out for our birds best interests. Nobody is under attack. I feel that some people may take offense to things in general.. not specifying anyone in particular. But a situation like this is certainly a tough one. As lovepoodle mentioned when something like that happens no matter how much you know, read, learned, etc you don't know what to do. We can become overcome in such a situation which is why I feel it's good to have this online community to turn to for advice. I think that many of us if not all of us are very understanding and would never hold something against another person. We are all here to offer advice to each other, learn from each other, share stories, etc. I just do not want anyone feeling criticized, or attacked. We all have our advice from our hearts and fortunately the situation turned out well.

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Post by lovepoodle » Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:05 am

Fhgwgads, I totally agreed with you ! And Thanks to you. I've been with this forum since 2011. Back then I only had knowledge ( I read a lots & all kinds of web site) but no experience. but I leaned a lots, I mean a lots of stuffs from here. From peoples experience, different techniques, someone has problem. ..we all put our knowledge together to help !! yes, once a while. .. strong opinions fight eachother...if it's not personal attack I think its ok. everyday, new peoples are joining this forum....some of them are just like me a few years back.. have no idea for finch care....but they'll be ok as long as they stick with this forum !!!
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Post by fhgwgads » Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:25 am

lovepoodle you are absolutely right! I am glad to hear you benefited from the forum and I am happy I was able to help. I am also glad I met you even if it was under serious circumstances. We are all here because of the love for our birds and I am glad we have a wonderful community. You are a great contributor and I am sure with the knowledge and experience you have you will be able to help some of those new people who are just like you were, same goes for all of us! And we certainly all help each other!! :D And you never know, someone else may have an issue with an injured bird and you could share your story on what you did and how your bird adapted. Like I said they are very resilient creatures and I am reminded every day when my little one eyed crooked beak baby sings his little heart out and lives a happy life! He is quite the character!!

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Post by tt101 » Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:33 am

fhgwgads wrote: I generally do not believe in euthanasia but I once had a parakeet who was very sick with a large cancerous tumor and was in a lot of pain and clearly suffering. I had brought her to the vet and the pot her under anesthesia and were not able to help her and she was not going to make it so they euthanized her while she was still under so she would not have to suffer at all. They were very humane about it, though I was still devastated. J wouldn't have wanted her to suffer a painful death. All of my other birds have never been euthanized.
I should add that under extraordinary circumstances such as the one you are mentioning...I would be between a rock and a hard place but ultimately I would still choose to let them survive on their own.....thankfully I have never been in that position yet and if I was in that position I can bet I would be in a different mindset
fhgwgads wrote: I also just want to mention everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I believe we all are looking out for our birds best interests. Nobody is under attack. I feel that some people may take offense to things in general.. not specifying anyone in particular. But a situation like this is certainly a tough one. As lovepoodle mentioned when something like that happens no matter how much you know, read, learned, etc you don't know what to do. We can become overcome in such a situation which is why I feel it's good to have this online community to turn to for advice. I think that many of us if not all of us are very understanding and would never hold something against another person. We are all here to offer advice to each other, learn from each other, share stories, etc. I just do not want anyone feeling criticized, or attacked. We all have our advice from our hearts and fortunately the situation turned out well.
I absolutely agree but I don't think anyone is attacking or criticizing anyone, we are all individual people with individual opinions and we each have certain opinions we are passionate about and will inevitably come on stronger than maybe intended....overall this site is filled with very understanding and kind members and I would hope no one would ever get offended because at the end of the day it is up to each person to decide what they think is best right?

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Post by poohbear » Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:28 am

The only time I've killed a bird (let's use the proper expression) is when they've had a respiratory infection that has left them gasping for breath and rolling around on the floor of the cage.
A bird has a crippled leg?...so give it perching options where it can rest comfortably.They manage very well otherwise.

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Post by fhgwgads » Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:25 am

tt101 I agree! And I never thought I would even do it until I saw how much she was suffering and then they had her under and I didn't want to wake her up into that same suffering. But I agree with what you said!

@poohbear I wouldn't say killed not because I am trying to lighten any blows here.. but because it is the proper term for putting down an animal. I did not physically kill my bird myself. The choice of words to me is more of a grammar thing rather than just trying to be less harsh. My bird was killed, yes... but the manner in which she was killed was euthanasia. And I wouldn't change it either. She suffered a long time, I did everything I could for her. And like I said before besides her having a huge tumor filled with blood preventing her from breathing correctly, having a wet vent, and being in a lot of pain.. all my other birds have died natural deaths.

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Post by Nanajennie » Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:31 am

I don't know what I would have done without this forum! I would not have continued to care for them properly and I would have quit.

This forum is unique and wonderful... I have made true friends here and I always feel safe and respected (even in the beginning when I got scolded [-X a few times LOL)

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Post by fhgwgads » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:17 pm

Nanajennie lol trust me we have all been scolded at one time or another! But if it wasn't for all of us collectively I think we works ask end up with dead or unhealthy birds! Or 5000 babies, lol!!! I certainly feel like I have a lot more knowledge and confidence having a place to turn to and I am not in the dark about things. And I too am glad to have met so many great people!!!

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Post by tt101 » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:42 pm

fhgwgads wrote: Nanajennie lol trust me we have all been scolded at one time or another! But if it wasn't for all of us collectively I think we works ask end up with dead or unhealthy birds! Or 5000 babies, lol!!! I certainly feel like I have a lot more knowledge and confidence having a place to turn to and I am not in the dark about things. And I too am glad to have met so many great people!!!
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Post by wilkifam » Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:11 am

I close band all my birds, the only leg injury I've ever had has been on a leg with no band.
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