Air sac mite in incubating female

[Sally]

I personally use the topically-applied Scatt when I only need to treat one or two birds. I feel it is more effective because I can control exactly how much of the medication that my bird gets, and it is readily absorbed into the system. If I had to treat an entire aviary, I would probably go with S76, as then it can be placed in the water. The down side is that you don't know exactly how much each bird drinks. However, if they are alive at the end of the treatment, you know they drank some, because any bird that would refuse to drink at all for two days would be dead.

[Stinch]

How much time would you think a scaly mite treatment would last generally? I am curious, since I was treating my gouldian finches.

[Stinch]

With scaly mite ointement.

[debbie276]

I've also only ever used typically applied Scatt.
I've never had Scaley mites but from what I remember you need to apply the medicine directly to the site for several days or weeks. I believe http://www.ladygouldian.com has directions on her site under Scatt or S76, whichever you prefer

[cindy]

Vets are now recommending Scatt and topical ivermectin 1% be done for 3 treatments... each dose is one drop to the back of the neck directly on the skin, second dose is 14 days after the first dose and the third dose is 14 days after the 2nd dose.

This is good for scaly leg and beak mites and ASM.

[debbie276]

Vets are now recommending Scatt and topical ivermectin 1% be done for 3 treatments... each dose is one drop to the back of the neck directly on the skin, second dose is 14 days after the first dose and the third dose is 14 days after the 2nd dose.

This is good for scaly leg and beak mites and ASM.

Treatment for Scaley mite is the same as air sac mites? I thought I read that you had to apply directly to the Scaley mite site?
Still don't understand how a much weaker medicine is the same dosage as a stronger one when every site that sells them says different.

[cindy]

The vet had us use it directly on the back of the neck... another vet did the same, recommended the same treatment to another member in my group for scaly leg and beak and ASM... it is absorbed into the blood stream through the skin, the mites feed on the birds' blood and ingest the treatment. Applying oils and lotions she said is not necessary since the mites burrow under the skin. (do not let your bird bathe for 2 to 3 days after treatment.)

As I mentioned before on other topics the vets are recommending three treatments as I outlined because they are seeing to many break through cases using the shorter course treatments. One person who owns a bird supply site feels the mites are building a resistance to some of the treatments since they are over used.

[finchboy]

Let us not forget that clicking isn't an explicit indicator of ASM.
It could also be an upper respiratory infection, an aspergillosis infection, or any other potential disease of or relating to the respiratory tract.

If the nest is extremely humid and damp with droppings my first inclination would be inhaled aspergillosis spores causing a fungal respiratory infection.

Know what? If I ever decide to be seriously into finch-keeping, I'd consider getting a powerful microscope for some tests of micro bugs, spores and such organisms.

[cindy]

Clicking is not always ASM.... a microscope will definitely help in looking at fecals of sick birds.

[Stinch]

But do I have to throw away anything? If don't, what solution can I use for cleaning wood and plastic? Can you please use the metric system please, it makes it easier for me. If you can't I'll try to convert gallons to litres.

[Sally]

But do I have to throw away anything? If don't, what solution can I use for cleaning wood and plastic? Can you please use the metric system please, it makes it easier for me. If you can't I'll try to convert gallons to litres.

Do you have scaley leg mites in your birds? If so, then you definitely need to use a topical application. Scatt would be my preferred medication for scaley leg mites. What plastic and wood items are you wanting to clean? You can wash and disinfect many items with bleach, or you can wash and then spray items with Avian Insect Liquidator, if that is available to you.

[cindy]

For Scaly leg and beak it is direct contact transmission, they do not come off the bird in the manner that feather mites do, scaly mites burrow an live under the skin. The vet said normal maintenance is fine. Birds can have scaly mites for up to 6 months to a year before you see visible signs (by that time the mites have a good foot hold) so it is important to treat with a preventative as outlined during the time when the bird is in quarantine (it prevents trying to deal with it in the future, preventative is the same as treatment).

Cleaning the perches and cage is a plus and using AIL is good, it will give you piece of mind. Make sure with the scatt to remove all bath water for 2 to 3 days after application and to do the 3 doses each 14 days apart, it will break the mites life cycle, they are stubborn to get rid of

[Stinch]

I have a plastic feeder, a water bottle, a perch, a swing, a mineral block and now a nest box in their cage (I already treated them for it, I'm am asking about it just in case they get it again).