What are these babies? (Mouth Markings)

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What are these babies? (Mouth Markings)

Post by Tiffany » Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:22 pm

Hi, I was feeding these little Zebra finches hatchlings and noticed the older chick has different mouth markings then the younger chick. The older chick's beak is also lighter than the younger one and the eye color is different. i was wondering if someone could tell me what mutations they could possibly be? Here are some pictures.

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Re: What are these babies? (Mouth Markings)

Post by bugaboo5 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:24 pm

CFW (Chestnut Flanked White) maybe? :) Congrats on the babies! =D>
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Re: What are these babies? (Mouth Markings)

Post by Tiffany » Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:27 pm

Thanks in advance. The main difference I see is just one is a lighter color. I was hoping someone with a more experienced eye could help me out. The Dad was a normal grey and mom was a CFW. The parents didn't have any visual splits.

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Re: What are these babies? (Mouth Markings)

Post by cindy » Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:20 pm

http://www.efinch.com/gape.htm

scroll down to zebras...it shows a few different mutations and their mouth markings.

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Re: What are these babies? (Mouth Markings)

Post by finchmix22 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:01 pm

I would guess Continental CFW? It seems to have too light a head for the regular CFW or Fawn chicks, but this is not my best species. They are cute!
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Re: What are these babies? (Mouth Markings)

Post by Tiffany » Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:54 pm

In certain light he/she's pupil is red. I think he/she body is to dark to be a Continental CFW. I looked at efinch.com and I still can't tell what mutation he could be.

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Re: What are these babies? (Mouth Markings)

Post by cindy » Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:05 pm

If the dad is normal and the mom is CFW this is what you would expect

50% Normal Females
50% Normal/Chestnut flanked white Males

It is possible that both may have hidden genes that do not show up in every clutch...you will be able to tell more once the baby matures and feathers out some.

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Re: What are these babies? (Mouth Markings)

Post by LuxandLolita » Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:49 pm

To be honest it appears to be the same gape as a fawn cheek(when mixed with silver, my favorite mutation)
in coloration and size of markings...
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Re: What are these babies? (Mouth Markings)

Post by Tiffany » Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:35 am

Thanks. I'll be happy no matter what mutations they turn out to be as long as they are healthy. I love these little babies. :D

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Re: What are these babies? (Mouth Markings)

Post by Tiffany » Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:29 pm

Another picture I took this evening. Messy little eaters.

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Post by tinysparrow » Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:33 pm

they are so cute! <3
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Post by Tiffany » Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:48 pm

Thanks. :)

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Re: What are these babies? (Mouth Markings)

Post by Teagarden » Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:57 pm

What beautiful photos! I don't know what mutation they are but they sure are cute!
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Re: What are these babies? (Mouth Markings)

Post by Tiffany » Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:38 pm

Thanks. I think the youngest on is a normal Grey but I'm not sure on the older one. His eyes were pink but now his eyes are darker. Here is this evenings picture. His eye's wasn't that dark yesterday. In certain light he has red pupils. His beak and sink is still lighter. I'm thinking normal grey or maybe lightback. I guess when he gets feathers I'll no for sure.

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Re: What are these babies? (Mouth Markings)

Post by cindy » Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:41 pm

Can you post pictures of the parents?

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