Red-heads or Cut-throats???

JohnBoy · Post by **JohnBoy** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:32 pm

I just found these 3 fledglings in the aviary this morning so I decided to band them while I could easily catch them. I have 2 pair of cut-throats and 1 pair of red-heads in the aviary and these look a little different from the cut-throat fledgling I have gotten in the past. They look a little stockier, however I am not sure now.
If anyone knows how to tell the difference, if possible at all I'd appreciate some feedback or else I'll just have to wait and see.

JohnBoy · Post by **JohnBoy** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:43 pm

I do know one thing, they are all female. The males show the red on both species at 21 days.
I am going to sit out by the aviary for a bit to see who is watching and feeding them. It's been so hot here I have not been able to stay out for long that is why I don't know what is happening in the aviaries.

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:50 pm

John can you email Garrie Landry and see if he can ID them for you? He has a lot of experience with the RHfinch.

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:54 pm

A young rhfinch http/www.efinch.com/chicks/handfeeding/handfeed3.jpg

male and female cutthroat http://www.efinch.com/species/cutthroat.htm

rhfinch pair
http://www.efinch.com/species/redhead.htm

John, the head looks almost like a female cutthroat. What does the chest have? Anything that looks like scallop like pattern on the femal rhfinch?

JohnBoy · Post by **JohnBoy** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:46 pm

OK, I did some bird watching today and they are definitely cut-throats. The mom cutthroat is all over them, protecting them from anything that gets in their way. Usually I get 2 males and one female. This time they are all female. These seem a little wider in size than the other clutches that's why I was wondering if they could possibly be red-heads. Anyway I am pleased.

lovemyfinch · Post by **lovemyfinch** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:13 pm

Very pretty Johnboy

Domenic · Post by **Domenic** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:17 pm

Congrats anyway, both species are exceptional.

JohnBoy · Post by **JohnBoy** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:21 pm

New pic

annague · Post by **annague** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:23 pm

Cute babies! Congratulations!

B CAMP · Post by **B CAMP** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:29 pm

Do these normaly spend a lot of time on floor ,they are nice looking

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:31 pm

Congratulations John...they are cute!

JohnBoy · Post by **JohnBoy** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:56 pm

B CAMP wrote:Do these normaly spend a lot of time on floor ,they are nice looking

No. But the fledglings do before they retire to the nest.

wellingtoncdm · Post by **wellingtoncdm** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:38 pm

JohnBoy wrote:OK, I did some bird watching today and they are definitely cut-throats. The mom cutthroat is all over them, protecting them from anything that gets in their way. Usually I get 2 males and one female. This time they are all female. These seem a little wider in size than the other clutches that's why I was wondering if they could possibly be red-heads. Anyway I am pleased.

Could they be hybrids?

JohnBoy · Post by **JohnBoy** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:23 pm

wellingtoncdm wrote:
JohnBoy wrote:OK, I did some bird watching today and they are definitely cut-throats. The mom cutthroat is all over them, protecting them from anything that gets in their way. Usually I get 2 males and one female. This time they are all female. These seem a little wider in size than the other clutches that's why I was wondering if they could possibly be red-heads. Anyway I am pleased.

Could they be hybrids?

No, all pairs are well bonded and stick to their mates.

monotwine · Post by **monotwine** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:37 am

Very nice looking fledglings John. I wish my birds would come out looking so well feathered.

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