Yellow Belly Waxbills and Owls

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Re: Yellow Belly Waxbills and Owls

Post by MLaRue » Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:34 pm

Anna,

These birds were actually bought in 2009 (late) - I started the post again so that the birds could be referenced correctly.

I ended up getting more YB's which were given to Donna to let them breed in her huge aviary but nothing ever happened. In the mean time I set up a pair I had sexed and I lost the female after her first egg she laid. Which then started a new question on another post that went sour so I brought this post forward.

I too mix my own mixes and with so many new people getting into birds - they need to understand that the mixes we deem good are not always sufficient so what works for another with certain species may never work or be enough for another species. It is a caution that after years and years of being in bird husbandry that even someone like me with experience will still have failures because of whatever.

It was my opinion that I lost the Swee hen because either she didn't recognize the mix as a valid calcium/vitamin/mineral mix or did and didn't consume enough. I too feed my birds greens rich in calcium but even that wasn't enough. It is also my opinion that perhaps the YB's need to be supplemented with liquid calcium during breeding just to be safe and will do so next time but for now the little YB hen is gone and what a horrible death that I could have prevented.

Regarding the Owl's - well they just plain suck at being parents! They have laid two clutches and incubate perfectly and when the babies start to hatch they abandon ship! :evil:

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Re: Yellow Belly Waxbills and Owls

Post by Sally » Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:11 am

cindy wrote:is this the picture...if so it was on this 2008 post...

http://www.finchforum.com/viewtopic.php ... e&start=45


That's the photo I kept trying to find! Thanks, cindy. :D I have the Yellow-bellied Waxbills, and feel lucky to have them. They are the cutest little birds, just adorable, like little round balls of gray fluff.

I haven't had a chance to try to see if I can tell the sex on them. I'll be moving them before too long, so I'll get a close up look at them then. Guess I should break down and DNA them--at least I would know for sure. I put a different color band on each bird to see if I noticed any pairing up. Right away, green band and yellow band cuddled up, even went in one of the nests, so I thought I had a pair--NOT! Before I could even get excited, red band was joining the pair--maybe I have a group of swingers! :shock: :lol:
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Re: Yellow Belly Waxbills and Owls

Post by MLaRue » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:24 am

psilocybin6 wrote:The following was sent to me from a breeder (R.I.P) in Slovakia who had great success with the YB Waxbills at the time. Text was translated to English.

...(it was) thought quartinia are hard to keep breathing because they lacked ‘some’ essential nutrition in our aviaries...we are now much better off... (we) know these (finches) require much more cholecalciferol than other (waxbills)...they need to ingestion a lot less phosphorus foods --especially in living foods when breeding -- than any other African (finch) – (at the) same time (their) rearing food should consist of at least 60percent protein so that they can successfully (parent) raise... (although) with many other finches calcium(-overload) may not be an issue...for quartinia what we did not know was (that) too much calcium in quartinia leads to bone disease and hypercalcemia...which causes (them to) die quite fast...

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How did they feed cholecalciferol without the addition of calcium itself? As in how did they feed D3? Did they use a specific supplement or a food source? Because most stuff related to calcium and D3 for birds is in one source. There are specific human supplements of D3 but very curious as to what they used for the Swees and or Yellow Belly's.

So in my hens case it is very possible that she was getting all the calcium she needed just not enough D3. And surprisingly enough I just started using Cod Liver Oil again - I had stopped.

Rats! :evil: #-o

Thank you Fardad for the information.

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Re: Yellow Belly Waxbills and Owls

Post by Sally » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:07 am

So for my YB waxbills, they get eggfood and greens as per the Green Day diet, which has cod liver added to the eggfood--plus the cup of mineral mix--with liquid calcium added to water no more often than once per week, more like every 10-14 days--is this sufficient for these YBs? I did have a pair once before, lost the hen first, and then some months later the male, but I wasn't doing the Green Day diet at that time. Right now, these guys look great, very active, though their nails grow awfully fast, just had one get hung up in the bars of the cage.
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Re: Yellow Belly Waxbills and Owls

Post by JohnBoy » Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:41 am

I still have had no luck breeding mine.
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