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Re: If you people knew

Post by CandoAviary » Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:04 am

The painted buntings derived it's common name from an American Indian legend.
They say that the Great Creator ran out of colors when he created this bird so he just painted in patches some of each color that He had left over.

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Re: If you people knew

Post by Ursula » Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:02 am

CandoAviary wrote:The painted buntings derived it's common name from an American Indian legend.
They say that the Great Creator ran out of colors when he created this bird so he just painted in patches some of each color that He had left over.
I love that!!! =D> =D> =D>
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Re: If you people knew

Post by Ursula » Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:08 am

nixity wrote:I find it interesting that individuals with waxbills and other wild caught african species find fault in catching native species.

It's not as if many of these caged birds weren't wild native species somewhere.
JavierAMoreno wrote:I agree with you i was going to say that but i didnt wanna get into that argument!
I am pretty sure that none of my birds were wild caught, and I am not getting some of my favorite species for that reason...

And if you bring up a topic like this you have to expect responses like these, Javier. :wink:

I just think that we have plenty of species that have been bred as pet birds for generations, and I don't think there's a need to catch more in the wilda and a.) expose a lot of birds to certain death because only a fraction survive the catch and transport, and b.) upset our already plenty damaged planet by exploiting its species just for our benefit.

Sorry, that's just my opinion.
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Re: If you people knew

Post by BigBear0007 » Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:11 pm

Ok! I will jump in and add my two Canadian cents!
It's very hypocritical for us North Americans to say having we should
not keep North American wild caught birds.
But then we buy African, Asian and Australian wild caught birds.

All caged birds came from birds that at one time were wild caught.

In Europe, North American birds are very popular and very expensive.
American Goldfinches are trapped in Mexico and shipped to Europe.

A friend gave me an American Goldfinch that was raised by European Siskins.
A nest of three babies was knocked down in a wind storm.
So he put two babies under a fife canary hen and one under a siskin hen.

Now are those wild birds or are they tame?
Was it better to let them die?
I had that bird for two years till someone stole him from my own back yard.

I am not ashamed for having him and I would love another one.

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Re: If you people knew

Post by annague » Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:29 pm

Every country is different and what is accepted behavior in each country is also different.

Too often we easily criticize another country's accepted behavior without a full understanding of what it means to live in that country and how people are raised there.

Every country -- including the U.S. (unfortunately) has accepted behavior that is considered deplorable by other countries.

We would all do better to reserve judgement when we have no first-hand knowledge of the circumstances of life in a different country.

The Cuban birds are exquisite, Javier!! I don't mind saying if they were ever available to us in the U.S. I would greatly cherish a pair of each kind!

Thank you for sharing and for the pictures -- and don't worry about getting in arguments -- there will always be arguments but many people will also agree with you. :wink:
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Re: If you people knew

Post by JohnBoy » Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:43 pm

Cajun folks call the painted buntings "t-pops". When I was a kid and would go turtle hunting with my grandfather t-pops would be all over the place. I rarely see them now.
If it were legal to keep them I surely would have a pair. They are one of the most gorgeous birds in the world. To see them in person is a spectacular sight.

http://www.thepineywoods.com/TPops.htm
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Re: If you people knew

Post by annague » Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:47 pm

That is interesting, John Boy! I wonder where the name T-Pops came from?

The buntings are just gorgeous birds for sure -- it's a shame their numbers are dwindling.
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Re: If you people knew

Post by Ursula » Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:52 pm

annague wrote:Thank you for sharing and for the pictures -- and don't worry about getting in arguments -- there will always be arguments but many people will also agree with you. :wink:
... and we're all here to share opinions, even if we don't agree. Right? :wink:
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Re: If you people knew

Post by JavierAMoreno » Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:31 pm

yup thanks for the support i respect everyones point of view and opinion!
Your bird might not be wild caught but how do you think you have them at home because they were caught somewhere in the wild first and succefully reproduced!

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Re: If you people knew

Post by JohnBoy » Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:42 pm

annague wrote:That is interesting, John Boy! I wonder where the name T-Pops came from?

The buntings are just gorgeous birds for sure -- it's a shame their numbers are dwindling.
I posted a link with it's history.
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Re: If you people knew

Post by cindy » Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:44 pm

Early explorers 100's of yrs ago use to travel the world, discover new places and sail home with wild caught birds, reptiles and animals....all for zoos, studies, kings and queens' pleasure and gifts.

Personally I do enjoy the wild bluebirds and finches in the park and would rather see them fly free while I bike past and through their habitat. It is a beauty all it's own and it is relaxing. I adored the little blue birds so much it influenced me in getting finches, it reminded me that I missed having these little birds in my home.

I enjoy both watching the splendor of wild birds and the joy I find in my own finches. Wild birds have a spirit about them, cage birds bring delight....

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Re: If you people knew

Post by kenny » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:27 am

hi
its strange how names vary from place to place,you call your finches pintailed parrot finches,but in my part of the world they are known as pintailed nonperiels,and i know its the same bird


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Re: If you people knew

Post by nixity » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:31 am

kenny wrote:hi
its strange how names vary from place to place,you call your finches pintailed parrot finches,but in my part of the world they are known as pintailed nonperiels,and i know its the same bird


ken
I've heard them called that before, too :)

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Re: If you people knew

Post by annague » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:57 am

Sorry John Boy, I read most of the link and then got interrupted before the part about the origin of the name 'T-Pop'! :oops:

Thank you! :) That is very intriguing information on these beautiful birds. Interesting also that they are known to have done well in captivity since they are mostly seedeaters. They certainly are beautiful!
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