If not Seagreen, Opaline's Gouldian?

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If not Seagreen, Opaline's Gouldian?

Post by Vertdemer » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:54 am

Bluer back and wings, light yellow belly.
Bluer back and wings, light yellow belly.
Hi!
Ok, I'm probably weird and really obsess by my little one's but why not?!?
I observe, paint and breed birds since many years and I was always fascinated by their colors, shape and behaviors.

Four years ago, I find a RH PB GB hen(VDM1a) who had really bluer back. I bought her and her father since the lady who sell it didn't want to keep him because he was old and very bad father...that was a RH/OH PB/WB SYF GB/BB cock(Opal)...He was great and two of his sons who was RH PB SF GB was really yellow with kind of bizarre bluer back (as Australian Yellow have...)
So, I took VDM1a and Opal and try to breed them...I got success with VDM1a but sorrily, Opal killed systematically all his young...I died shortly after.
Now, after four generations, I think(if I'm not crazy! :shock: ) I find some characteristics who seem to be passed to descendants... 8) [quote][/quote]

So, what is Opaline Gouldian for me?
Candace inspired me this name because these birds have all colors of opaline gems...including orange and pink!!!
Really deed colors!
Really deed colors!
The back and wings are really bluer but when you watch feather individually, you see complete palette of colors..really dark then orange-brown, green, blue and finally in some feathers purple or pink...the belly, contrarily to sea green, is light yellow, not as pale as sea green has... and contrarily to Seagreen and Noble Blue who tend to lost the blue color after molting, Opaline's gouldian keep their colors, molt after molt...
The posterior part of the neck is bright green to yellow or base of green feathers is orange-red...
Ok, now, stop talking and just watch photos...! :lol:
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""orange" neck and pink ended sus caudal...
""orange" neck and pink ended sus caudal...
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30 Lady Gouldians, green, yellow, blue & seagreen... Purple, white, lilac and blue breast if possible!!! Two Bourke, one Lutino & one Rubino, two green singer and one green Parrotlet.
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Re: If not Seagreen, Opaline's Gouldian?

Post by Vertdemer » Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:02 am

Some pictures of VDM1a and his son VDM1c and his pink ended sus caudal
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VDM1a, the mother with her bluer back.
VDM1a, the mother with her bluer back.
Sus caudals of Opaline VDM1c
Sus caudals of Opaline VDM1c
The first molt of Opaline VDM1c...quit intense!!
The first molt of Opaline VDM1c...quit intense!!
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30 Lady Gouldians, green, yellow, blue & seagreen... Purple, white, lilac and blue breast if possible!!! Two Bourke, one Lutino & one Rubino, two green singer and one green Parrotlet.
Lover of colors...and sorry for my bad english writing...!

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Re: If not Seagreen, Opaline's Gouldian?

Post by Vertdemer » Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:24 am

Other pictures...of pink ended feathers.
Feathers of all the back parts of these birds seem to be longer...the colored part and seem to be darker most of the time for non-yellow ones...
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The "opaline rump" of an other VDM1a's son who his OH PB/WB SYF GB probably dark factor...
The "opaline rump" of an other VDM1a's son who his OH PB/WB SYF GB probably dark factor...
Opaline YF almost finishing his molt!
Opaline YF almost finishing his molt!
The rump of "Opal cock", the first one I bought with his pink ended feathers...
The rump of "Opal cock", the first one I bought with his pink ended feathers...
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30 Lady Gouldians, green, yellow, blue & seagreen... Purple, white, lilac and blue breast if possible!!! Two Bourke, one Lutino & one Rubino, two green singer and one green Parrotlet.
Lover of colors...and sorry for my bad english writing...!

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Re: If not Seagreen, Opaline's Gouldian?

Post by CandoAviary » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:02 pm

What great photos showing the colors... that purplish/Pink on his rump is stunning. I sure hope the youngsters get some of these colors...Beautiful!!! I want one :D

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Re: If not Seagreen, Opaline's Gouldian?

Post by Vertdemer » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:16 pm

Thank you Candace! I'm really proud of my little guys!!!
And if airlines can delivery Québec-Florida, it would be a pleasure to send you some of my young to continue "experiencing"...!!!

There's some other pictures, just for pleasure of eyes... :D

Any other ones who get that kind of colors (back head, back and rump)??[quote][/quote]
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Orange-red?!?
Orange-red?!?
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Opaline...
Opaline...
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30 Lady Gouldians, green, yellow, blue & seagreen... Purple, white, lilac and blue breast if possible!!! Two Bourke, one Lutino & one Rubino, two green singer and one green Parrotlet.
Lover of colors...and sorry for my bad english writing...!

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Re: If not Seagreen, Opaline's Gouldian?

Post by Vertdemer » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:30 pm

Other pictures... Opaline's tail...

and VDM2b who is an other son of my hen VDM1a and by the way the uncle of "Opaline", VDM1c... Really tiny amount of pink in covertail feathers but kind of purple on his back...
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An other picture of covertail of VDM1c (Opaline)
An other picture of covertail of VDM1c (Opaline)
VDM2b and trace of purple on back and wings feathers
VDM2b and trace of purple on back and wings feathers
VDM2b who is the uncle of "Opaline"(VDM1c)
VDM2b who is the uncle of "Opaline"(VDM1c)
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30 Lady Gouldians, green, yellow, blue & seagreen... Purple, white, lilac and blue breast if possible!!! Two Bourke, one Lutino & one Rubino, two green singer and one green Parrotlet.
Lover of colors...and sorry for my bad english writing...!

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Re: If not Seagreen, Opaline's Gouldian?

Post by MLaRue » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:06 pm

Beautiful birds! :)

I had to smile over the term of Opaline - like we use with the different Grasskeets. ;)

What about that baby in the picture that has a white head with dark black feathers? Australian Yellow?

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Re: If not Seagreen, Opaline's Gouldian?

Post by Vertdemer » Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:49 pm

MLaRue wrote:Beautiful birds! :)

I had to smile over the term of Opaline - like we use with the different Grasskeets. ;)

What about that baby in the picture that has a white head with dark black feathers? Australian Yellow?
That's not a baby...I named her "Mosaïque"(in french that's mean Pied)... That's maybe a pied hen or maybe an Australian Yellow carrier...I don't know... She had two young's with the cock on the same picture(VDM2b) that are SYF BB but who don't seem to be pied...

Do you think she can be Australian Yellow? I bought her at Quebec City, Canada...
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Special hen...
Special hen...
His back is maybe little purple...
His back is maybe little purple...
VDM2b, Mosaïque and one of their young...
VDM2b, Mosaïque and one of their young...
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30 Lady Gouldians, green, yellow, blue & seagreen... Purple, white, lilac and blue breast if possible!!! Two Bourke, one Lutino & one Rubino, two green singer and one green Parrotlet.
Lover of colors...and sorry for my bad english writing...!

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Re: If not Seagreen, Opaline's Gouldian?

Post by Vertdemer » Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:19 pm

Other photos of "Mosaïque"... Pied or Australian Yellow carrier???[quote][/quote]
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Mosaïque on her chicks...
Mosaïque on her chicks...
Her face...Red tip beak with orange-yellow white-black head... The hen behind Mosaïque have a "Tangerine head" actually...
Her face...Red tip beak with orange-yellow white-black head... The hen behind Mosaïque have a "Tangerine head" actually...
Her back with pale yellow spot...
Her back with pale yellow spot...
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30 Lady Gouldians, green, yellow, blue & seagreen... Purple, white, lilac and blue breast if possible!!! Two Bourke, one Lutino & one Rubino, two green singer and one green Parrotlet.
Lover of colors...and sorry for my bad english writing...!

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Re: If not Seagreen, Opaline's Gouldian?

Post by nixity » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:14 am

I love all of your photos Isa :)
It's exciting to see someone working with such unique colored Goulds!
Your hen definitely looks pied from the photos!
I don't think she can be straight Australian Yellow because that mutation only exists with White Breast, she COULD, however, be split - because I believe it's the splits that show that white coloration on the face and the mottling throughout the body.

I can't remember what the inheritance is.. I thought it was autosomal recessive, but if birds can be split and show some degree of coloration maybe it's co-dominant?

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Re: If not Seagreen, Opaline's Gouldian?

Post by Vertdemer » Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:31 am

New pictures of "Opal" single yellow factor, the owner or the "pastel pink feathers rump" ... :D

His belly is paler yellow...and his back bluer green :lol:
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The single yellow factor son of VDM1a
The single yellow factor son of VDM1a
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30 Lady Gouldians, green, yellow, blue & seagreen... Purple, white, lilac and blue breast if possible!!! Two Bourke, one Lutino & one Rubino, two green singer and one green Parrotlet.
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Re: If not Seagreen, Opaline's Gouldian?

Post by CandoAviary » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:43 am

All I can say is I wish we lived closer to each other.. would love to sit for a while and admired your birds in person!!!!
Opal is a beauty and is going to offer some great pedigree to your birds :D

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Re: If not Seagreen, Opaline's Gouldian?

Post by Vertdemer » Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:03 pm

Pictures of the day...

They have really dark brownish shoulders... and clear belly...
to be continued...!

Wish you all great time!!! :lol:
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30 Lady Gouldians, green, yellow, blue & seagreen... Purple, white, lilac and blue breast if possible!!! Two Bourke, one Lutino & one Rubino, two green singer and one green Parrotlet.
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Re: If not Seagreen, Opaline's Gouldian?

Post by Vertdemer » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:27 pm

Sorrily, I've lost "Opal SYF"...kind of a "panic attack" with "epileptics status" and shortly after, death... :(

In other point of view, the son of VDM3b has almost completed his molt and you know what...? I has violet feathers on his back!!! Some pictures to see... :lol:
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Blue and purple or lavander back??? An other "Opaline ones"???
Blue and purple or lavander back??? An other "Opaline ones"???
Gould violet 3.jpg
Beautiful, isn't he???
Beautiful, isn't he???
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Re: If not Seagreen, Opaline's Gouldian?

Post by CandoAviary » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:06 pm

Oh no... I am so sorry. It is a shame when things turn out not as we hope. :( May Opal rest in peace.

That boy is looking great... what a beautiful color he has there. Wow!

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