$$$$$$$ Owl Finches
- williep
- 1 Egg Laid
- Posts: 685
- Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:42 am
- Location: South Africa
Wow Hilary $200 per bird, I'm starting to feel much better now.
I agree that the DNA sexing method is much less stressful for the birds as it doesn't involve "knocking them out", but I have witnessed the avian vet doing it and the whole process really takes about 2 minutes and my birds settled in really quick after the whole process. DNA sexing here is also around $20-$25 per bird, 4 times more expensive so for me it's not worth the extra expense. We also wait at least 10 days for the results which is ridicules
I've come across another breeder in the area that sells them for $55 per pair and has 3 surgically sexed, unrelated young pairs, I do not know them but they came highly recommended by one of my friends so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Will keep you all posted
I agree that the DNA sexing method is much less stressful for the birds as it doesn't involve "knocking them out", but I have witnessed the avian vet doing it and the whole process really takes about 2 minutes and my birds settled in really quick after the whole process. DNA sexing here is also around $20-$25 per bird, 4 times more expensive so for me it's not worth the extra expense. We also wait at least 10 days for the results which is ridicules
I've come across another breeder in the area that sells them for $55 per pair and has 3 surgically sexed, unrelated young pairs, I do not know them but they came highly recommended by one of my friends so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Will keep you all posted
- williep
- 1 Egg Laid
- Posts: 685
- Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:42 am
- Location: South Africa
Update:
I visited the breeder yesterday, a retired school teacher who now focuses entirely on breeding finches and African Grey parrots. O, how I wish I could do this full time.
I was really impressed with her setup, but living in a colder part of our province (state) she keeps most of her birds indoors. I couldn’t believe the amount of space she had for rearing birds. She kept the young males and females separate (all surgically sexed at about 2-3 months of age) in 12 different flight cages. She would then separate a clutch into different cages, one in each cage so no brothers or sisters are kept together, ensuring that she doesn't sell related pairs.
She used to keep one pair each of the species she bred (gouldian, owl, star and parrot finch) per cage but said the species interfered with each other when breeding even though she provided 8 nest boxes per cage. She now breeds them one pair per cage in all wire breeding cages and removes any pair that has reared three clutches to a larger flight cage for the rest of the year until the next season starts.
Anyway I intended to get a pair of owl finches only but ended up with a pair of red faced parrot finches as well - they are gorgeous and were also $55 per pair. Both are young pairs (parrot finches 4 months and owls 6 months) I'll post some pics tomorrow as I did not have time to take pics before leaving for work.
Thanks for all your input on the subject.
I visited the breeder yesterday, a retired school teacher who now focuses entirely on breeding finches and African Grey parrots. O, how I wish I could do this full time.
I was really impressed with her setup, but living in a colder part of our province (state) she keeps most of her birds indoors. I couldn’t believe the amount of space she had for rearing birds. She kept the young males and females separate (all surgically sexed at about 2-3 months of age) in 12 different flight cages. She would then separate a clutch into different cages, one in each cage so no brothers or sisters are kept together, ensuring that she doesn't sell related pairs.
She used to keep one pair each of the species she bred (gouldian, owl, star and parrot finch) per cage but said the species interfered with each other when breeding even though she provided 8 nest boxes per cage. She now breeds them one pair per cage in all wire breeding cages and removes any pair that has reared three clutches to a larger flight cage for the rest of the year until the next season starts.
Anyway I intended to get a pair of owl finches only but ended up with a pair of red faced parrot finches as well - they are gorgeous and were also $55 per pair. Both are young pairs (parrot finches 4 months and owls 6 months) I'll post some pics tomorrow as I did not have time to take pics before leaving for work.
Thanks for all your input on the subject.
- Hilary
- Mod Extraordinaire
- Posts: 2336
- Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2006 4:39 pm
- Location: Arlington, Virginia
- williep
- 1 Egg Laid
- Posts: 685
- Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:42 am
- Location: South Africa
As promised here are some pics of my new additions to my flock.
I am so happy with them and hope they will breed for me, I plan to pair them in September when our spring starts but being young pairs I'm not expecting fireworks from the first try but you never know.
Here is my Mr Owl (Benito)

Here is Lady Owl (Bernice)

And, finally, here is my Male Red Faced Parrot finch (no name yet)

I am so happy with them and hope they will breed for me, I plan to pair them in September when our spring starts but being young pairs I'm not expecting fireworks from the first try but you never know.
Here is my Mr Owl (Benito)

Here is Lady Owl (Bernice)

And, finally, here is my Male Red Faced Parrot finch (no name yet)

- williep
- 1 Egg Laid
- Posts: 685
- Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:42 am
- Location: South Africa
-
- Mature
- Posts: 137
- Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:40 pm
i have a stupid question
would a simple x-ray show the organs of the birds ?
or are their organs so similar that you cant tell the difference in a pic?
please dont take my head off. i asked this because i was looking through the dictionary and they has a side view of a bird(female) and it showed the two holes of the vent (one for poop and one for the eggs) and it made me think of a thread i read and a person asked what does the breeder see when he blows on the vent (i figured it was two hole like the pic showed)
now reading this im like wow all that to find out the sex of a bird
are all birds not make the same ?
im sorry congrats on your new lovely birds
would a simple x-ray show the organs of the birds ?
or are their organs so similar that you cant tell the difference in a pic?
please dont take my head off. i asked this because i was looking through the dictionary and they has a side view of a bird(female) and it showed the two holes of the vent (one for poop and one for the eggs) and it made me think of a thread i read and a person asked what does the breeder see when he blows on the vent (i figured it was two hole like the pic showed)
now reading this im like wow all that to find out the sex of a bird
are all birds not make the same ?
im sorry congrats on your new lovely birds
- Sally
- Mod Extraordinaire
- Posts: 17929
- Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:55 pm
- Location: DFW, Texas
Hi, moe, there is no such thing as a stupid question. Finches are either monomorphic, which means both sexes look exactly alike, or dimorphic, which means there are visible differences between the sexes. I just got a pair of Grey Singers, and I can't tell any difference on them. I am going to go ahead and have a DNA test done on them, as I want to know if I really have a pair (I bought them for the male's song, so I sure better have a male!).
I know nothing about xrays, but whenever they do one on one of my horses, it is OUCH expensive, so it probably is the same with finches (or are little tiny xrays cheaper?).
I know nothing about xrays, but whenever they do one on one of my horses, it is OUCH expensive, so it probably is the same with finches (or are little tiny xrays cheaper?).
