Whats this male?

[Carlshave]

Is this male of mine a orange breast?

[DanteD716]

BB Isabel.. phaeo?

[Carlshave]

is BB black breasted ?

[DanteD716]

Yes. You can tell by his orange head he is BB

[cindy]

Carleshave..I forget where you are located...some countries do not have BB.

[cindy]

To be safe I will say a fawn OB until I find out your location.

[Carlshave]

Iam in England, I find it confusing how it can be BB when it's orange :s

[DanteD716]

When isabel is combined woth BB, it removes all the black of the bird... leaving the orange lace and orange head.

[cindy]

Fawn Isabel OB. Dante, their Isabels react to OB differently than our Isabels. Ours does this with BB.

Carlshave do you have BB in your stock?

[DanteD716]

So an American BB isabel looks like an English OB isabel?


These genetics are so confusing.

[Carlshave]

Have u a picture of a BB so I can see if I have any?

[DanteD716]

Black breasted silver isabel http://efinch.com/birdpix/bb-ff.jpg
http://efinch.com/birdpix/bbsimale2.jpg
Black breasted Florida Fancy (similiar to isabel)

[cindy]

http://www.emeraldisleaviary.com/zebrafinches.htm

scroll down to European Isabel BB and the splits...

Carlshave does he have a breast bar or darker marking on the chest?

Dante, try this article...it explains some of the differences. http://www.efinch.com/species/ffxisabelzeb.htm

In Australia they do not have BB but have OB and Isabel...they get a result much like if we bred our FF to a BB. At first when I saw Australia's birds that looked like our FFBB I thought they must have BB but they do not...it is the combination of their Isabel and OB.

England has BB (I believe) his bird can be a split as well so it could be a Fawn Isabel OB/BB...it is hard to say since we can't see the front or back (tail) of the bird.

Carlshave is this an offspring of your birds or a bird from a breeder?

[cindy]

Carlshave if you can get a picture and post it here of it's back and chest I will show it to a friend who can help ID the bird for you.

I sent this off to a friend...hopefully they can help in the ID...do you have BB in your stock?

[Carlshave]

I got the from a breeder who said he was a phoeo I think he said