How to darken Cheeks color of BC-CFW

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How to darken Cheeks color of BC-CFW

Post by Sarim1984 » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:42 am

Hi ALL,

I actually know bit about it but just need to confirm that whether i am right or wrong.

I have some BC-CFW pairs which have light cheeks and flanks. I mean not dark black color.

I have, Male : BC/CFW Female: BC.
Babies i got: BC Male and BC-CFW Female (but cheeks are not dark).

If i pair this BC-CFW female with her father which is BC/CFW, will i get BC-CFW males and females with dark cheeks?

Or is there any other way?

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Re: How to darken Cheeks color of BC-CFW

Post by cindy » Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:57 am

To darken the cheeks you can breed BC to BC CFW...you will ecpect to get some visual BCCFWsplit tp BC and visual BC split to BCCFW....take the visual BCCFW/BC and breed them to BCCFW.

From what I recall your offspring are young...BCCFW take a while darken their markings, have your offspring gone through a major molt yet?

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Re: How to darken Cheeks color of BC-CFW

Post by Sarim1984 » Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:52 am

no, they are still molding.

I am little confuse, u are saying i will get BCCFW/BC and BC/BCCFW while pairing BC x BCCFW. But according to genetic calculator.


BC male x BCCFW Female =
50% Black cheeked /Chestnut flanked white Males
50% Black cheeked Females

BCCFW Male x BC Female =
50% Black cheeked /Chestnut flanked white Males
50% Black cheeked Chestnut flanked white Females

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Re: How to darken Cheeks color of BC-CFW

Post by cindy » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:24 am

Sarim, I have done this three times, when pairing a BC with a BCFW I got both visual BC and Visual BCCFW in a clutch...the visual BC are split to the BCCFW and the visual BCCFW/BC

I took the visual BCCFW and paired it with a full BCCFW and got all BCCFWs

I took the visual BC/BCCFW offspring paired it with a full BC and BC offspring.

All I can relay to you is my experience in doing this. The first time I tried putting a BC female with a BCCFW male I got a visual BCCFW, white as can be black cheeks and beautiful. Repeated again and got 3 BCCFW visual offspring.

The next pair, a BC male and a BCCFW female I set up gave me visual BC and visual BCCFW in the clutch (the BC offspring will have a lighter gray back and whiter stomach than the buff you see in BC)(the visual BCCFW offspring will have a bit more dusting on them and it may run down the back, should molt out or if using to breed back to a full BCCFW than the offspring from that pair should be whiter).

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Re: How to darken Cheeks color of BC-CFW

Post by Sarim1984 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:08 am

Ok cindy thanks for your response.

Tell me one more thing. Would it be a good idea to pair daughter (BC-CFW) with her dad (BC split to CFW)? i mean would it be okay?

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Re: How to darken Cheeks color of BC-CFW

Post by cindy » Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:08 pm

Line breeding is not something I do but it is done to strengthen a gene line. If done it should only be done once...father to daughter, son to mom and the offspring should always be paired out to unrelated birds.

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Re: How to darken Cheeks color of BC-CFW

Post by Sarim1984 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:47 am

Thanks

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