CFW + BC

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CFW + BC

Post by richierick » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:43 pm

Hey everyone

There will be a bird show in Richmond Hill Ontario Canada. I will be going this Saturday or Sunday. I might buy new zebra finches since I have sold most of my stock. I want to buy a CFW (Chestnut Flancked White) and BC (Black Cheek), but I do not know if I should get a male CFW or BC, female CFW or BC. I want to get this type of mutation of the offspring:

http://www.gophoto.it/view.php?i=http:/ ... H9eVcVfDXw

Which parents would get me this mutation? A male CFW and a female BC, or a male BC and a female CFW? Or it doesn't matter which is which?
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Re: CFW + BC

Post by wellingtoncdm » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:03 am

If possible buy two unrelated CFW males and two unrelated BC hens.
Then breed their young together.

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Re: CFW + BC

Post by cindy » Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:32 am

I raise the BC CFW...get a CFW male and a BC female...BC is recessive and CFW gene is only carried by the male.

pairing them this way will give you

50% Normal/Black cheeked Chestnut flanked white Males
50% Chestnut flanked white /Black cheeked Females

Do the pairing with 2 pairs and then pair the offspring.

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Re: CFW + BC

Post by Martie » Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:48 am

Cindy, I had a friend also looking to make this combination recently. Does regular CFW make strong enough color? Is CCFW better - or does the BC work on its own to strengthen color?
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Re: CFW + BC

Post by cindy » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:01 pm

It depends on what you want to achieve...CCFW with BC will give more of a odds of getting the BCCCFW (black in the tail bars, stronger black features)

CFW and BC will give you more of a light gray, the cheeks may not be as full strength as the BCCCFW.

http://www.efinch.com/birdpix3/bccfwmale.jpg

Roy Beckham explains it well in the sections on combinations. http://www.efinch.com/species/cfwzeb.htm

I have just gotten into my breeding stock a crested CFW hen, she is with a BCCFW male/BB.

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Re: CFW + BC

Post by Martie » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:44 pm

cindy wrote: It depends on what you want to achieve...CCFW with BC will give more of a odds of getting the BCCCFW (black in the tail bars, stronger black features)

CFW and BC will give you more of a light gray, the cheeks may not be as full strength as the BCCCFW.

http://www.efinch.com/birdpix3/bccfwmale.jpg

Roy Beckham explains it well in the sections on combinations. http://www.efinch.com/species/cfwzeb.htm

I have just gotten into my breeding stock a crested CFW hen, she is with a BCCFW male/BB.
Thank you, Cindy. Zebras are so interesting - there's so much to know. I'm glad we have you and Roy Beckham as resources because it can get confusing fast! :)

Thank you for sharing!
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Re: CFW + BC

Post by finchmix22 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:02 pm

Ditto. Cindy's a great resource!
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Re: CFW + BC

Post by richierick » Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:02 pm

A a billion Cindy. I can't wait for this Saturday to get a new addition to my bird family :)
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