Amputate or What should I do ????? Need advice !!

[Sunbay]

The whole band thing is like saying my dog hung its self on its chain.

Which DOES happen, more than you would think - especially with those 'choke chains'. Mine all wear collars that are not too loose, but they can pull out of them if they get hung up.

[Perfex]

Sorry your little PF got hurt.
Seems like everyone has had serious band issues. Are injuries and near misses really that widespread? I was starting to get the hang of banding my birds but now I am really second guessing whether its worth it. Seems like an aweful lot of risk involved.

As for dogs and collars- mine don't wear any. Years ago they wore buckle collars with ID tags and I thought they were safe. However, one day while two dogs were playing together and getting mouthy on eachother, one dog got her lower jaw hung up in the collar of the other dog. They panicked and the collar got so tight and twisted as they fought to free themselves. Thankfully I was right there or I likely would have had two dead dogs. Also, the collar had the plastic clip where you pinch the sides together and it pops open. If it had have been a buckle collar I might have had trouble getting it undone as it was so tight. So mine never where collars while at home. Lesson learned.

[30 Seconds to Bob]

I also have a canary that lost a foot due to a band. This happened several years ago and otherwise he's doing fine. I did fabricate him a wire "shelf" to rest on - instead of a perch, that he seems to enjoy. I'm very "anti-band" but I do realize they are a necessary evil for breeders to keep track of things. Sorry for your little one. Bob

[lovepoodle]

Oh my goodness !! I just got back home and saw all reply. ..I truly thankful to all of you !! It's a great idea "platform" I never thought about!! Parrot finches are very active bird, I never had this kind of problem on Gouldians...I had one parrot finch who got nail stuck in the mesh (seed guard)before. yes, Band is risky. .but so necessary to keep blood line separate. I'm watching him right now..he is active but his dead foot keep catching a bar..cuz half open, I think that it need to be amputate. .. I'll see what a vet to say.....it's so sad to see this little guy who had a bright future 3days ago..I hope that he will adopts his new body well. Thank you again for advice and share your experience with me.

[fhgwgads]

lovepoodle if his foot keeps getting caught you should bring him to the vet and talk about removing it to prevent future injuries. As long as he seems happy and active I am sure he will still have a bright future especially if he is being cared for by you! Just keep an eye on him, make sure the cage is safe for him, and definitely try to get him to a vet. I am sure he will adapt if he is already still doing ok with a bum leg hanging off. But like I said before.. my little one eyed crooked beak baby boy Sparrow has the brightest future of all my birds and is the happiest and cutest of all of them!! He really is such a happy and sweet little boy and having issues doesn't stop him from singing beautifully at the girls all day long!! He is such a softie unlike his punk dad. But he definitely stands his ground and fends for himself!

[zebra zombie]

The whole band thing is like saying my dog hung its self on its chain.

Which DOES happen, more than you would think - especially with those 'choke chains'. Mine all wear collars that are not too loose, but they can pull out of them if they get hung up.

You are missing the point which is you should make sure there is nothing to get hung up on in the first place..The dog did not hang its self the owner did by not taking enough preventative action in the first place....eg the stupid dog jumped off the kennel and over the fence with his chain on and got hung up by a nail sticking out of the wood and his chain wasnt long enough for him to reach the ground anyway...the dog didnt put himself there..same goes for bands..........

[fhgwgads]

I think the fact of the matter is that accidents happen. We all try our best to give our pets the best lives but unfortunately accidents occur. No matter how careful we are injuries can still occur. Having pets is like having children. You can pad your entire home and your child can still slip and fall and crack their head open. However there is a difference between having an accident due to something unforeseen and compete neglect. Fortunately the little guy survived his ordeal so far and hopefully he will recover and adapt. Even if you are as careful as possible birds can get caught up. In another post I read that someone had a bird get his own beak stuck in his chest. The best we can do is learn from situations like this and take preventative measures, tend to the animal and continue to provide it with the best care possible. I certainly wouldn't just give up on it though.. an injury doesn't necessarily mean life is over especially when the little guy is still intent on moving on with his life. Of course he needs to be tended to and monitored, and it would be a good idea to look over the cage and all things included... but I don't think anyone is absolutely at fault here. Many people can have their birds in the exact same situation and never have an accident, same thing applies to other pets and even humans. And sharing advice and experiences in a situation like this can help to benefit others and their pets by preventing or lowering the possibility of future accidents. Even in the wild animals have accidents. They are living creatures that make decisions and have a will to live.. some may be more prone to accidents than others and some may just experience accident by chance. Part of having pets involves keeping them in a domestic situation they obviously wouldn't be in if they were wild, and both situations come with their pros and cons. I certainly would not just euthanize the bird in this situation because it still has a chance, and I wouldn't just say that bands are the cause of all injuries and always result in injuries. But hopefully we can all learn from this as take more care and consideration in our enclosures in the future!

[Nerien]

Well said!

[30 Seconds to Bob]

I guess that accidents don't happen to perfect people. Ditto on the well said, fhgwgads! (coming from someone who has had a bird injured in a totally inconceivable way) Bob

[Nanajennie]

Ditto Ditto, that is why they are called "accidents" and not neglect

How is the foot today?

[fhgwgads]

Nerien@30 Seconds to Bob"@Nanajennie thank you! I just believe euthanization should be an absolute last resort in the event of inevitable death or absolute suffering or a serious situation that can become dangerous. Maybe because I am a mommy to a little one eyed wonky beak puff ball I am biased but I just thin if the bird is going on with his life and adapting why not give him a chance? He may not be perfect but a pet is not something just got display. It isn't something you get rid of if it breaks. I am NOT accusing anyone of saying that but I wholly believe that all creatures deserve a chance.. fault or no fault. I also believe we all do our best and certain things are inevitable as I already stated. My baby may have been born with issues due to the parents being related.. but I wasn't going to euthanize him. He is happier than ever now. And it wasn't something I could have known either.. but I didn't just give up on them. My birds have surprised my time and again with their strength, resilience, and will power and sometimes I feel they are stronger than I will ever be in certain aspects. And I love each of them.. two eyes, one eye, no eyes, etc.

Hope the little guy is doing better and that something can be fine to help him avoid future difficulty. He is a gorgeous baby and seems to be strong willed.

[lovepoodle]

My little one is much better today ! He was in tiny hospital cage last a few days , so every time I came to look at him he gets panic ..then get coughed his leg on bar..but since he moved in flight cage with other juveniles he looks happy ♡ take a bath with others , eat veggies like crazy. ..when he needs to rest he go on the seedhopper or rest on artificial plants. He is a one smart guy. fhgwgads, very well said !! Im glad that you guys never suggest to euthanize him, ( I was panic & very confused when I post this ).. if you did ..maybe I was listening then do that. Thank you for encourage me, told me that I have other options.. Im telling you, he will be fine with me ♡

[Nerien]

Good for you, and him. It's always so distressing when you first find something wrong with one of your little birds. Given a little time and thought, the right solution usually presents itself. If he's happy and capable and adapting, there's no reason why he shouldn't be allowed to live. It sounds like he'll do just fine. And he's so cute!

[debbie276]

Glad to hear things are looking up for you
best of luck

[fhgwgads]

lovepoodle I am very happy to hear that! And I am glad you have him a little time. Don't feel guilty about asking what to do.. you asked out of concern for your bird. Had he been in really bad condition you may have had to euthanize him but thankfully he is ok. Best of luck with everything and I am so happy your little guy is clearly doing better!!