I need your help !!! All chicks DEAD in 3days from hatch !!

For concerns related to avian illness and wellbeing.
Post Reply
User avatar
lovepoodle
Wonder Wooer
Wonder Wooer
Posts: 332
Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:42 pm
Location: las vegas NV

I need your help !!! All chicks DEAD in 3days from hatch !!

Post by lovepoodle » Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:48 am

This is my best pair , they had success clutches last season (when they laid 5eggs or 6 whatever they all did hatch !!) About a weeks ago , they hatched 5 eggs. All of them died 3rd day from hatch.. them I remember... the one befor this clutch was under Societies. They tossed all just hatched chicks , some were still in half shell. Never happened to me before !!! ( but this society pair was new pair...so Im not sure that cuz, babies or just unexperienced society's??) Ok, I did Gram stain & Fecal culture ( cost me $116..) 《RESULT》gram stain was normal. BUT, Campylobacter, Staphylococcus, Proteus species , klebsiella were grow. Oh I got headache. Buy the way, these are from my Gouldian pair !! They look perfectly normal & healthy. How they got those bacterias ???? Dr said Doxycycline or Trimethoprim are good for these bacteria. I have a Vetafarm Doxyvet liquid, but how to use of this ? Any one know or same experience ??? My head is gonna be explored !!!! ( The Dr are still working ...I can't talk to him for details yet. ) I need someone to break down and explain for me.....please.
MAMI

Lady Gouldians
Parrot Finches (RF,SG,Pied SG&RF,BF) Societies,
Red Bellied Parrot,Violet Indian Ringneck Parakeet,Rose Breast Cockatoo,Princess of Wales parakeet,Turquoisine & Scarlet chested parakeets,Cat,
Poodle LATTE & MOCHA

User avatar
monotwine
Proven
Proven
Posts: 2872
Joined: Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:50 am
Location: South Africa

Re: I need your help !!! All chicks DEAD in 3days from hatc

Post by monotwine » Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:27 am

http://ladygouldian.com/Fostering-with-Society-Finches

Read this article.

I am not too sure if your babies were under societies or parent raised or if your Gouldian were parent raised or foster raised. Either way this article will be helpful.
Also not sure if you keep your Gouldian and Society together.

Sorry you lost all your babies.

User avatar
lovepoodle
Wonder Wooer
Wonder Wooer
Posts: 332
Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:42 pm
Location: las vegas NV

Re: I need your help !!! All chicks DEAD in 3days from hatc

Post by lovepoodle » Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:02 am

monotwine. They were under parents. Dad was parents raised. Mom I don't know...My Gouldians are separate with societies

But same room though. I'll chack the link. Thanks.
MAMI

Lady Gouldians
Parrot Finches (RF,SG,Pied SG&RF,BF) Societies,
Red Bellied Parrot,Violet Indian Ringneck Parakeet,Rose Breast Cockatoo,Princess of Wales parakeet,Turquoisine & Scarlet chested parakeets,Cat,
Poodle LATTE & MOCHA

User avatar
bugaboo5
Weaning
Weaning
Posts: 1513
Joined: Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:21 am
Location: Les Etats-Unis, USA

Re: I need your help !!! All chicks DEAD in 3days from hatc

Post by bugaboo5 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 5:06 am

I'm sorry to hear about your headache (and your losses). While you are visiting the link, go email Laraine from the website. She offers AWESOME advice and she usually responds to emails everyday. Tell her the exact same information you provided. Otherwise, maybe even nixity can help you with medicating. Good luck and Happy New Year.
God is my redeemer and it is through Him I have found eternal happiness. I am grateful, I am blessed, and I am truly loved. I wish all this and more for all members of our finch forum family. May you all be blessed and highly favored. <3

~*Friend, companion, and caretaker for too many birds to count.*~

debbie276
Bird Brain
Bird Brain
Posts: 14789
Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:30 am
Location: WV

Re: I need your help !!! All chicks DEAD in 3days from hatc

Post by debbie276 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 6:45 am

Sounds like they were exposed to the society's which may be carriers of the disease. :( Your very lucky to have a vet available, I would follow your vets advise.
Debbie
long time breeder of lady gouldians:
Green
SF Pastel (SF Yellow)
Pastel (Yellow)
Blue
SF Pastel Blue (SF Yellow Blue)
Pastel Blue (Yellow Blue)

GREAT articles on avian lighting:
https://mickaboo.org/confluence/downloa ... ummary.pdf
http://www.naturallighting.com/cart/sto ... sc_page=56

User avatar
lovepoodle
Wonder Wooer
Wonder Wooer
Posts: 332
Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:42 pm
Location: las vegas NV

Re: I need your help !!! All chicks DEAD in 3days from hatc

Post by lovepoodle » Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:58 pm

This is what I need to do. Doxyvet for 7days , then 2days Probiotic, again 7days of Doxyvet. To Gouldian pair & Forstes(society). No need to do special cleaning for cage..cuz, they're transmit from mouth not from dropping. Now on I need to do this treatment for societies befor let them Forster. He said I don't need to worry about Gouldians. Hopefully, no more dead chicks..
MAMI

Lady Gouldians
Parrot Finches (RF,SG,Pied SG&RF,BF) Societies,
Red Bellied Parrot,Violet Indian Ringneck Parakeet,Rose Breast Cockatoo,Princess of Wales parakeet,Turquoisine & Scarlet chested parakeets,Cat,
Poodle LATTE & MOCHA

debbie276
Bird Brain
Bird Brain
Posts: 14789
Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:30 am
Location: WV

Re: I need your help !!! All chicks DEAD in 3days from hatc

Post by debbie276 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:12 pm

If it is confirmed that the society's are carriers of a disease deadly to gouldians so that they must be medicated to foster, I would not use those society's. :(
Debbie
long time breeder of lady gouldians:
Green
SF Pastel (SF Yellow)
Pastel (Yellow)
Blue
SF Pastel Blue (SF Yellow Blue)
Pastel Blue (Yellow Blue)

GREAT articles on avian lighting:
https://mickaboo.org/confluence/downloa ... ummary.pdf
http://www.naturallighting.com/cart/sto ... sc_page=56

User avatar
lovepoodle
Wonder Wooer
Wonder Wooer
Posts: 332
Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:42 pm
Location: las vegas NV

Re: I need your help !!! All chicks DEAD in 3days from hatc

Post by lovepoodle » Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:38 pm

debbie276
Im still little confused.. cuz, poop was from my gouldian pair. No chicks dyed like this from foster before. But Dr told me to treat all my societies& the pair who lost all chicks. Then I asked for next clutch, Do I need to treat them again before clutch or foster. .. He told me to do treat just societies each time before fostering. Not to worry about Gould's. My head is not clear yet.. butI have no choice, but see what's gonna happen next clutch.
MAMI

Lady Gouldians
Parrot Finches (RF,SG,Pied SG&RF,BF) Societies,
Red Bellied Parrot,Violet Indian Ringneck Parakeet,Rose Breast Cockatoo,Princess of Wales parakeet,Turquoisine & Scarlet chested parakeets,Cat,
Poodle LATTE & MOCHA

debbie276
Bird Brain
Bird Brain
Posts: 14789
Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:30 am
Location: WV

Re: I need your help !!! All chicks DEAD in 3days from hatc

Post by debbie276 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:26 am

It sounds like he is prescribing medication like in the article http://ladygouldian.com/Fostering-with-Society-Finches for Campylobacter. If your not sure I would ask the vet more questions so that you understand fully the situation. :)
good luck
Debbie
long time breeder of lady gouldians:
Green
SF Pastel (SF Yellow)
Pastel (Yellow)
Blue
SF Pastel Blue (SF Yellow Blue)
Pastel Blue (Yellow Blue)

GREAT articles on avian lighting:
https://mickaboo.org/confluence/downloa ... ummary.pdf
http://www.naturallighting.com/cart/sto ... sc_page=56

Post Reply