Nestling with bloated abdomen

[lovezebs]

KarenB
That is a sweet picture. I'm so glad that 'Twinky' is it? Is doing better.
I hope he continues to improve.

~Elana~

[MiaCarter]

KarenB - Were you hungry when you named them? LOL

I think Twinkie and Cupcake is super cute!

That's good that he was bright eyed, bushy tailed and curious! That's a good thing!

[KarenB]

I tried to see Twinky's bum this morning, but he didn't come all the way out. The lights had just come on and I needed to leave, so I didn't get to see well.



Twinky and Cupcake contemplating life

[cindy]

Karen, if you can take the baby out and check the abdomen for white/yellow areas lumps and bumps.... we are learning via someone who sells and works with medications and ill birds on our group page that often these can be signs of infection, protozoa or parasites in young baby birds.

[KarenB]

cindy What would be the treatment of choice in that case?_

[cindy]

depends on what is showing can you wet his underside and get a good picture of his tummy, push the feathers back.

[KarenB]

cindy

[cindy]

Karen, I reference the link to this topic on the post you started on the finchaholics group regarding this baby.

[cindy]

Terri has answered your topic on finchaholics, she was asking you about what meds you have on hand... Ronex 12%, Ronivet S or Trimethoprim sulfa?

[KarenB]

cindy MiaCarter lovezebs Second day of treatment with Trimethoprin Sulfa, and I think Twinky is starting to turn the corner. The abdomen has shrunk some. He came out of the nest to hang with his sibling and then began to nibble on some millet.

[KarenB]

I think quite a bit of improvement since yesterday.

[MiaCarter]

Woah. That's a huge improvement!

I'm not on Finchaholics; what did Terry say she thought it was?
I've never seen a belly like that in a living bird.
If I had to guess, I'd have thought it looks infected. It almost looks like pus. But I know that protozoal infections can manifest a similar look in these little ones.

Good thing you had the trimethoprim sulfa on-hand! Even though it didn't save Mr Lavendar, it saved this little guy!

[KarenB]

MiaCarter I thought the same thing. Good thing I already had the stuff! and that it's working! I am pretty sure I have everything that Morning Bird sells plus the T/S and a couple other things. So I now feel like I am well-armed for just about anything that comes my way. Grrrr The only other thing I need now is something to eradicate parasites like Baycox, and I will be ordering that shortly.

Cindy posted a quote from Terri that she made to Cindy on another issue: "The yellow can indicate something in her digestive system and if thinning could be bacterial or intestinal parasite. If bacterial sometimes they will feel warm in your hand? Does she appear to be eating and drinking normally? Sometimes when you hold them in your hand and turn them over blowing the belly feathers back you can see better what is going on. Lumps can be felt by gently massaging the belly? Lumps can be infection, tumors or as we were speaking of gorged gizzards:) Protozoa can be seen by a white veil appearance coming up the abdomen..I guess that is the best way to describe it:)) I need to take more pictures. Here is a cocci picture, you would think this yellow is fat...but it is infection and the only way you would know without a microscope would be the breast bone is showing so thinning birds don't have fat bellies. This photo is from Avian Clinical Medicine book..."

In a subsequent post Terri wrote: "The Trimethoprim sulfa would probably be my choice. I would treat everyone with Baycox if you have that? The sulfa is an antibiotic so...if they don't need it would hate to treat them with that? The baycox is a parasitic only 2 days, the sulfa treats the infection and coccidia, which would be perfect for this one but maybe not so great to treat everyone. They get it from food sources, water and poo:) pretty normal stuff. Remember our food is grown outdoors and blown clean, not sterilized:)) And the dummies eat their own poo!"