Gouldian question

[Barbara]

OK I rescued this pair almost two weeks ago.I know the red head is a male he sings the other one hasn't,the more I look at them together there color looks the same was told they were a male and female ???? What does anyone out there think?I want another pair but not sure what I have here.Do the males have the red beak and females a faint black all the time or just during breeding season?Here are a few pictures.

[debbie276]

Pictures are not the best but it does look like you have a pair.
The male looks to be a RedHead.LilacBreast.Green (RH.LB.Green)
and your hen looks like a BlackHead.PurpleBreast.Green (BH.PB.Green)

The hen once fully mature will have a red tipped beak except for when she is in breeding mode. In breeding mode the beak will be almost all black. Looks like she is either going into breeding mode or out of.

Very nice birds!
best of luck

[Barbara]

debbie276 thanks Debbie so you can'tell always tell by the color,my other pair the male is a very dark purple and bright yellow the female is so much duller in her color,this pair to me the color looks the same.Does the male always have a red tip
Thank-you again

[debbie276]

The male I believe is a LB and not PB. LB males are the same color as a PB hen but richer in color, if that makes sense. RH and BH have red tipped beaks where YH's will have a yellow tipped beak.

[Barbara]

That does make sense my other male must be a RH-PB thank you for the info just wanted to make sure there a male and female,now I know I have two pairs

[debbie276]

Your very welcome.
Other signs of being a hen is short tail wires and a lighter yellow belly. There will also be much less blue circling the head color.

Of course of it sings is a male, lay's eggs a hen.

[Barbara]

debbie276 I would say her yellow seems to br lighter if you look past her belly area,she does seem to have a shady black beak,I have to look at tail feathers tomorrow there sleeping right now .really don'the think they are a pair (meaning like one another)When I first caught them and cut there nails the male band had the #14 the female# 12 wouldn't that be the year they were born,the female really ignores him and he sings but will not have anything to do with her,they do not groom one another,will sleep on same perch but not close together,I guess he doesn't like older women

[debbie276]

Those numbers can mean many things, everyone bands differently. They could even be siblings if the breeder is just banding numbers to keep track of how many have hatched.
Gouldians are not snuggly like say society's. Very rare for them to groom each other too. They are much more secretive even mating in their nestbox.

[Barbara]

debbie276 good to know about bands.there is no nest box and I really do not want to see that she is a female because I find eggs on bottom of cage .hopefully they will behave.thank-you for info.