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Problems with eggs

Post by StodOne » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:05 am

So my female canary layed 5 eggs she layed the last egg maybe around 4 days ago , today we had a problem and she somehow managed to flip the nest and bring it to the ground all eggs fell , i had to pull out the nest and the eggs and used that time to inspect the eggs , it seems like they are fertile because there are red lines kind of like vines going from one bigger red blob on the egg but the problem is all the eggs have some kind of hole or a crack in them , she disposed of one egg i found it on the bottom of the cage this morning and yes it is fertile there is a red blob inside the yolk and for some reason i cannot find the fifth egg , and I am sure she layed 5 eggs and there are 3 eggs in the nest now ... is it possible that she ate it?
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Re: Problems with eggs

Post by StodOne » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:08 am

Oh yes i forgot to mention , I've put the eggs back in the nest and she started sitting on the eggs as soon as i attached it on the cage , is it possible that the eggs with holes and cracks in them would be still able to grow little chicks?
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Re: Problems with eggs

Post by Icearstorm » Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:20 am

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They will not survive if left broken due to bacteria infections and exposure. If you can fix them quickly (some use glue and tissue paper), they may survive, but it seems unlikely if they have already been cracked for a few days. Completely broken eggs will not survive and should be tossed to prevent contamination of the other eggs and nest.
She very well may be an egg eater; there is often nothing you can do about this if all nutrition is right, as egg-eating will be a habit, rather then a behavior resulting from some sort of deficiency. I have a female society finch that eats everyone's eggs and babies, so I'm having to keep her seperate as it doesn't seem like she will change.

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Re: Problems with eggs

Post by StodOne » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:11 am

Icearstorm Well i think that they got broken today since i didn't really see any damage on them a day ago , I will try to glue the eggs xD but the funny thing is that when i put the nest back up she immediately returned in the nest as i pulled my hand out of the cage .
Just a quick question , is there a type of glue that I should use also can i use candle wax because i've seen some videos of people doing such things.
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Re: Problems with eggs

Post by lovezebs » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:53 am

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You could try using glue, but wax.... I don't know, seeing as it would have to be hot...

Personally, I would toss any eggs that are cracked or broken.
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Re: Problems with eggs

Post by Ricardo Ronsini » Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:00 am

I have tried to fix eggs with holes in the past without being successful, I used fingernail polish.

If I were you I would try to fix these cracks, once that without trying they would perish anyways, and after a couple of days would candlle to check if they are still developing, or not.

Many times when the nests fall off, it was because the nest itself or the nest material got twisted with the brid's nails.

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Re: Problems with eggs

Post by StodOne » Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:22 am

lovezebs Hmm well at least I tried , there is only 1 egg without any damage I will candle the eggs in a few days to see if they have developed at all , if i see signs of life i will keep them if not i will toss them and leave the one egg that is still healthy.
@"Ricardo Ronsini" Thanks , the thing is that its not only the material that fell off it was the whole nest the plastic cup , because the wire mesh is too wide i have to fix that somehow :/
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Re: Problems with eggs

Post by Icearstorm » Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:45 pm

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Plain Elmer's glue should be safe and nontoxic. Keeping the egg warm throughout the repairing process may be difficult, though.

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Re: Problems with eggs

Post by lovezebs » Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:46 am

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Well, hope for the best.

I would recommend fastening the nests better next time around.
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Re: Problems with eggs

Post by StodOne » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:42 am

lovezebs Yeah the whole thing failed the last egg that didnt have a hole now has one , removed the nest for now until i find a better option to fasten it .
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Re: Problems with eggs

Post by lovezebs » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:48 am

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What can you do my friend, these things happen.

I usually fasten nests with wire or twist ties, then place a strong perch or two underneath them to offer extra stability. That way, if the wires give out, the perches hold the nest up, and if the perches fall or slide down, the wires still hold the nest up.

Good luck with the next clutch.
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Re: Problems with eggs

Post by Sally » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:54 pm

Here is an article from www.finchinfo.com on egg repair. It is in the breeding section of finchinfo. http://www.finchinfo.com/breeding/eggs.php

"Egg Repair
Fertile eggs with small puncture holes or thin cracks may be candidates for egg repair. The sooner you repair the egg after it has been damaged, the better. Before handling any egg, always wash and dry your hands. Eggs which have had their shell compromised are very susceptible to entry by pathogens which can kill a developing embryo. Good hygiene, therefore, is a must. Apply a very small amount of nontoxic elmer's white glue to a clean Q-tip and spread it gently and thinly over the crack or hole. (Surgical glue may be substituted for Elmer's). If the hole is too large to cover in this way, you may use a combination of elmer's glue and non-dyed tissue paper to patch the hole. Be very careful to only cover the smallest area possible with the glue, so that the rest of the egg shell can still breathe. If you clog too many of the tiny pores within the eggshell, the chick will suffocate. Allow the thin layer of glue covering the crack or hole to dry between coats, as several coats may be needed. Once the crack or hole is sealed sufficiently, allow the glue to dry and replace the egg in the nest. Hot dripped beeswax or paraffin wax may be used in place of glue16 (multiple coats are not needed, and it "dries" [cools] more quickly than Elmer's glue). If possible, try to complete the egg repair procedure within a half hour's time so that the egg may be returned to incubation quickly. In a few days, candle the egg to see if the chick is still developing or if it appears to have died. Please be aware that chicks which survive egg repair may need assistance during the hatching process, depending on the location of the glue or wax seal. If the seal is in the way of the pipping area, you may need to help the chick pip through it."
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