Avoid breeding

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Avoid breeding

Post by najione@icloud.com » Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:08 pm

Zebra Finches will mate for life when given the chance,
so it is never a good idea to separate a bonded pair unless it is to stimulate a resting season.

What ur thoughts in this?

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Re: Avoid breeding

Post by lovezebs » Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:12 pm

najione@icloud.com

I let my feathered kids pick their own mates.
I think it's just better this way.
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Re: Avoid breeding

Post by najione@icloud.com » Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:32 pm

lovezebs
Elana rocks =D>

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Re: Avoid breeding

Post by Stuart whiting » Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:14 pm

najione@icloud.com wrote: Zebra Finches will mate for life when given the chance,
so it is never a good idea to separate a bonded pair unless it is to stimulate a resting season.

What ur thoughts in this?
In a wild state zebras may well bond for life same as many other finches around the world, British bullfinches are known to pair for life in a wild state but yer need to bare in mind that yer zebras are in captivity,

Generally its up to you with what birds you pair together, I understand that this don't always work as with all birds you'll always get the odd few awkward ones that will only accept one partner,

Think of it another way, how do you think that a champion breeder and exhibitor breeds high class birds for the exhibition bench, it certainly wouldn't be by letting the birds pick there own partners,

The birds are very carefully picked and paired together to hopefully breed the ideal birds :mrgreen:

Just food for thought :thumbup:

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Re: Avoid breeding

Post by ac12 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:42 pm

To the title of the thread,
To avoid breeding, you separate the male and female.
That is what I did, to keep my zebra population under control, and that is what I do to manage my gouldians. I do not want the birds bonding to a bird that I do not intend to mate them to.

Also as Stuart said, I pair my birds up based on what I want as offsprings, the birds have no say in how they are paired up to mate.
Example1, I would NOT have paired a penguin zebra with a regular zebra. My penguins were mated only to penguins.
Example2, I pair up my gouldians specifically for the offspring colors that I want.
I also selectively breed, to prevent inbreeding, which might happen in a colony breeding situation. And to do this, I have to KNOW who the parents are.
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Re: Avoid breeding

Post by Stuart whiting » Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:02 pm

ac12 wrote: To the title of the thread,
To avoid breeding, you separate the male and female.
That is what I did, to keep my zebra population under control, and that is what I do to manage my gouldians. I do not want the birds bonding to a bird that I do not intend to mate them to.

Also as Stuart said, I pair my birds up based on what I want as offsprings, the birds have no say in how they are paired up to mate.
Example1, I would NOT have paired a penguin zebra with a regular zebra. My penguins were mated only to penguins.
Example2, I pair up my gouldians specifically for the offspring colors that I want.
I also selectively breed, to prevent inbreeding, which might happen in a colony breeding situation. And to do this, I have to KNOW who the parents are.
Absolutely Gary, well said :thumbup:

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Re: Avoid breeding

Post by najione@icloud.com » Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:17 pm

Stuart whiting ac12
Typical breeders =D> =D>

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Re: Avoid breeding

Post by najione@icloud.com » Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:30 pm

Stuart whiting ac12
Likewise We should try making childrens too

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Re: Avoid breeding

Post by lovezebs » Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:32 pm

ac12 Stuart whiting najione@icloud.com

Hi guys,

Most of us are not show breeders, world renowned exhibitors, or geneticists.

Most are simply hobby breeders, or just owners of a few birds which we would like to breed just to allow them to follow their natural instincts.

Seeing as our birds are already deprived of freedom, why not allow them the choice to breed with a mate of their choosing? I do believe that there have been some studies done, that show that pairs that have been allowed to choose their own mates and form close bonds prior to breeding, tend to be better parents and have larger clutches as a result.

You say that the birds have no say or choice in who they are paired up with. However they do have the ultimate choice in the matter...."the choice not to breed" ( quote Wildbill ).
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Re: Avoid breeding

Post by najione@icloud.com » Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:57 pm

Stuart whiting ac12 lovezebs
Again elana rocks
Guys debate
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Re: Avoid breeding

Post by ac12 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:04 pm

Naji,
If you seem to have an issue with breeders.
Get over it.
There are those that colony breed and those that selectively breed, and you are not going to change those of us who selectively breed.
So cut the snide remarks.
Some of us selective breeders were the ones to offer you help on your other post. Now with that attitude, I am not inclined to offer you any more help.

Or maybe you are here as a TROLL.

good day.


Elana,
You are correct, the birds do have the last say.
I have put pairs together that have not bonded and bred.
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Re: Avoid breeding

Post by najione@icloud.com » Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:45 pm

ac12
Am sorry :cry:

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Re: Avoid breeding

Post by wildbird » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:13 pm

I agree completely with Lovezebs and Naji. As for the rest of you, hopefully your birds will decide not to breed and what will you do then.

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Re: Avoid breeding

Post by Stuart whiting » Sat Jun 03, 2017 3:50 am

najione@icloud.com wrote: Stuart whiting ac12 lovezebs
Again elana rocks
Guys debate
:twisted:
You've clearly got an issue with breeders, again you clearly ain't got a clue,

At least we understand and know about how to breed birds :roll:

Like You mentioned stating about zebras pairing for life =)) if you understood about birds you'd know about this :-J

All this s##t about Elana rocks and all that, Elana is a good breeder and is no different from the rest of us experienced breeders and just knows about how to breed birds whereas you don't otherwise you wouldn't be asking.....DOH #-o

At the age of 25 yer only a baby in the world of bird keeping and you still need to learn a lot, age and a life time of keeping birds all come with experience and you'd do good by listening to some of yer elder more experienced bird fanciers before making such ridiculous comments at times.

If you want respect you need to earn it and at the rate your going at you sure ain't getting much [-X
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Re: Avoid breeding

Post by Stuart whiting » Sat Jun 03, 2017 3:55 am

ac12 wrote: Naji,
If you seem to have an issue with breeders.
Get over it.
There are those that colony breed and those that selectively breed, and you are not going to change those of us who selectively breed.
So cut the snide remarks.
Some of us selective breeders were the ones to offer you help on your other post. Now with that attitude, I am not inclined to offer you any more help.

Or maybe you are here as a TROLL.

good day.


Elana,
You are correct, the birds do have the last say.
I have put pairs together that have not bonded and bred.
Spot on well said , I'm inclined to feel exactly the same.....DONT HELP [-X

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