Help my society finch nestling died

[cindy]

I would avoid honey in egg food... egg is very complete... honey can carry bacteria and fungal... something a tiny baby with little immune system can handle.... plus they do not need the sugars, sugars encourages yeast growth.

Egg is complete, no need to add anything but perhaps a powdered vitamin, mineral supplement to it.

this should be (typo) honey can carry bacteria and fungal... something a tiny baby with little immune system CAN NOT handle

Also even if you "dry" egg food out with dry ingredients it is still fresh egg and you run the risk of mold, fungal, bacteria growing if left out at room temperature all day, change it out every two hours as mentioned or use dry egg food only...Higgins and ABBA seed make really good dried, fresh egg foods.

[finchescb]

cindy

Thank you for all your help. You explained so much and I learned a lot!

[Fraza]

Honey is actually good for them it helps fight away infections if a finch gets ill and you put abit of sugar or honey in there water and stir it will make them better I got this information from a person I know who has bred these over 40 years

[Fraza]

Also when one of my zeb females struck I'll and sat on the perch shivering and not moving I did this and next morning she started to eat again then the day after that she was fine

[cindy]

Honey is actually good for them it helps fight away infections if a finch gets ill and you put a bit of sugar or honey in there water and stir it will make them better I got this information from a person I know who has bred these over 40 years

Wrong... honey and sugar are not good for them...honey can carry botulism... sugars are carbs.. yeast in the gut feeds off carbs and adding sugar water to your birds diet daily or when feeding young will encourage yeast growth.... yeast/fungals will take your young down... any avian vet will tell you not to give sugar on a daily basis and not to feed sugars to young birds, adult birds for health reasons. They DO NOT need it in their diet. Giving sugar to birds on a daily basis is like feeding kids candy all day..do they need it ...no.

Sugars in water can grow bacteria....

Sorry strongly disagree and discourage adding sugars to your birds diet... it proves to be no added benefit in doing so.... Honey may not help fight infections if the honey carries botulism, fungal and bacteria... avoid it.

It is one thing to give electrolytes to your birds for one or two days after a trauma but not advisable on a daily basis.

[cindy]

Also when one of my zeb females struck I'll and sat on the perch shivering and not moving I did this and next morning she started to eat again then the day after that she was fine

If your bird is shivering, down giving electrolytes helps with energy but does not resolve why that bird is sitting as she is.... also advise a heat lamp. The bird may have underlying issues, illness that she is holding off but at times is showing signs something is wrong.

[cindy]

Adding extra carbs/refined- table sugar to the baby birds diet will displace, change the fat ratio of the good benefits of the egg food. Things were done a long time ago because we had little available product/knowledge wise like we have now a days.... just because we eat a certain food, or a certain food, product, herb is use by humans does not necessarily mean it will have the same benefit for birds, some can have adverse effects.

"Refined sugar has been mechanically processed, contains no nutrients. Because nutrients the bird needs to sustain its metabolism have been removed from refined sugar the birds metabolism must sacrifice its own nutrients in order to metabolize the refined sugar."

As stated Egg is very complete... you do not need to add "extra's" to it. Waxbills may also require live food along with egg food.

[cindy]

yeast and fungal are typically secondary to most illness, parasite, protozoa, bacteria.... sugars will feed the yeast, really not advised for ill birds. Electrolytes are good for birds suffering trauma, short term (a day or two) .... even stress can cause the ph in the gut to change and allow yeast to thrive.