Ideal plants for pots in finch aviaries?

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Ideal plants for pots in finch aviaries?

Post by Stephanie » Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:18 am

Hi

Of all the plants you have in your aviary, which varieties are faring best? I'm looking for suggestions for ideal finch plants, i.e.
- Looks pretty
- Has fun perches and interest value for the finches
- Stays reasonably clean / not too poop-covered
- Copes well with finch nibbling and attention
- Does well in a pot

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Post by dfcauley » Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:39 am

I have some really great plants in mine that are holding up wonderfully!!! But.... I don't have a clue the name of them. :oops:
I will take a picture when I get home from work today and post them.

My birds absolutely LOVE ferns of any kind. But.... they sure are messy. I have to sweep up behind them alot. They love to bury down in them and make nest. :lol:
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Post by dfcauley » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:46 pm

As promised here are the plants that I have in my aviary. Pardon the mess, have not had time to clean and sweep it yet today. :oops:
They especially love the large one in the corner but you have to have room for that one. They hide all up in there. :lol:
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Post by dfcauley » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:49 pm

A couple more. You wouldn't believe that I have about 30 birds in there. Not a one in sight....... :?
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Re: Ideal plants for pots in finch aviaries?

Post by Ursula » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:57 am

Donna,

The first plants from top in your first post is a Shefflera. It's actually considered not safe for birds as far as I know. But I guess since finches don't really chew on leaves it's ok for you. (My budgies eat everything.)

The second is an asparagus fern.

The third is a philodendron, which is actually also poisonous.

In your second post I only recognize the fern. My birds love ferns to pieces... ;-)

I don't know what the second one is....

Hope that helps!
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Post by JohnBoy » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:14 am

Shefflera is on the safe plants list. It and the Ficus are the only plants my birds don't chew up.
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Post by dfcauley » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:59 pm

I have had all these plants in my aviary for years.
So far..... no one has died from chewing on them.

In fact, they don't chew on the plants at all. They will chew on the ferns sometimes, but not the larger ones.

I don't think there is any problem with any of them not being safe. :lol:
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Post by Ursula » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:07 pm

Yes, Donna, I am sure they are ok. I think it's much more of an issue with hookbills who really like to chew on everything. (Mine even chew the window frames!! ;-))

However, just for the records: I googled safe and toxic plants for birds and Schefflera is listed in both categories depending on the page you're on.

There's also 2 varieties of Shefflera:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schefflera_arboricola which you have, Donna.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schefflera_actinophylla I have that in my aviary because I saw it listed as safe (and arboricola as toxic) when I created my aviary. However, now I find articles that list them both as toxic. My budgies chew the leaves sometimes! :shock:

I don't know WHAT to believe here. Maybe I'll remove mine just to be on the safe side.

Ficus is actually also listed as toxic on many sites because the white milk is toxic. I don't have a ficus benjamin in my aviary for that reason. But I did have at one point another ficus, an Alii Ficus, which I also read wasn't as toxic and doesn't have as much milk as the Benjamin...

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Post by dfcauley » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:22 pm

So Stephanie I suppose you would just have to get what you think is best. The ones I posted do very well in an aviary as far as being in pots. If your worried about them being poisonious perhaps silk is the say to go..... :wink:

The photos I posted have been in mine for about three years except for the ferns which I replace every winter from the ones on my deck. They will destroy them. Mine love to build nest in them and dig around in them. Just be sure to use organic soil when potting them.
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Post by JohnBoy » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:04 pm

I wish these list would not contradict each other. What are you suppose believe? I have had the shrub schefflera and the ficus in my aviaries for over a year and it's the only plants the birds don't shred to death. Maybe thats because they are toxic and the birds know it. They have to know what is toxic or not in the wild, wouldn't you think?
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Post by CandoAviary » Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:32 pm

Yes , in the wild they learn from what the parent feed them and at fledging what the parents lead them to feed on. In captivity they do not get this training or even choice in edible greenery.
Many times the birds must learn by trial and error. Ypu are right to suspect that the reason they do not sample them, or gather for nesting materials is that they are toxic or bitter tasting. Being toxic does not always end in death. Sometimes just a bout of sickness or damage done to internal organs. Once the bird subcombs later to a failing immune system most keepers have long forgotten of the possibility of damage done by the toxins. Just like humans that get cancers, complications, allergies to irratants, so do birds. It would be best to offer known safe plants.
One thing I offer is spiderplants. My birds consume these in large amounts and seem to be totally safe...but relished. fortunately they are easy to propogate and I always have replacements. The chewed ones come back once removed. Birds fed a favored greed by the keeper or furnished sown seeds that have greened usually have their needs filled by these so they do not attack the plants as much. Unless it is a spider plant....they seem to prefer this over anything I have ever offered :?: I grow all kinds of stuff from carrot tops, greens of all sorts, grass seeds, cucumbers, fruits, go figure they would prefer the spider plant..

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Post by JohnBoy » Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:23 pm

Candace is that the same thing as the airplane plant? If so, my birds shred them down to the root. You can't even tell a plant was there when they get through. They also come back quickly.
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Post by CandoAviary » Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:44 pm

Yes JohnBoy, the same plant, so I see yours love them too.
They are easy to propagate and come back...almost impossible to kill so they are the plant choice for my aviaries. They also live through the winter outside here.

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Post by Ursula » Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:22 pm

I tried the spider plants too and they don't last a day in my aviary! :shock: ;-)

You are right though, they do chew the plants not as much if they have plenty of greens. That's why I feed whole leaves of romaine daily and often grow greens from seeds.
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Re: Ideal plants for pots in finch aviaries?

Post by Sally » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:53 pm

There is so much conflicting information on plants--possibly more than most any other subject! Schefflera is usually listed as being safe, but rubber tree and weeping fig (both ficus) can be found on both safe and toxic lists.

I have put quite a few plants in my little (sort of) free flight room--schefflera, rubber tree, peace lily, palm, kimberly queen ferns, dieffenbachia, bougainvillea, asparagus fern, philodendron, purple fountain grass, star jasmine, mandevilla. I just got a shell ginger to pot up to put in there too, and I have a jatropha that will come into that room once cold weather hits. The birds seem to like the hanging baskets best, that is where they are trying to make nests. The broadleaf plants get pooped on, but I figure I can slip them outside to be hosed off from time to time. The 2 hanging baskets of asparagus fern have just about been destroyed, and the purple fountain grass pots are down to nothing.

With the fountain and that many plants, it is quite humid in there. I am going to have to make some hardware cloth screens to put in the windows so I can open them.
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