What the chance to get a CFW?

[slee044]

Ok i have a pair of zebra finch.
The male is a CFW and the female is a Pied. What is the chance that i well get CFW out of them?
Thanks Sai Lee

[L in Ontario]

I moved this post to the Genetics forum and I also would ask if you could please edit your title to be a little more specific (ie "What Kind Of Zebra Offspring?"). That would help readers determine the subject at a glance rather than exclaiming that you need "Help!" which almost indicates an emergency.

Thank you.

[LeWi]

Salam

u want to get a CFW but a male or a female ??
if u want a CFW female it is easy
all the females will be CFW
and all the males will be grey Split CFW and Split Pieds

if u want a CFW male
after breeding ur pair and getting the grey male with CFW split
u need to mate him with a CFW female to get CFW males

i wish i was clear
if not .. u can ask more questions or i will explain again in another way

[slee044]

Thanks Salam!
I will try it out!

[Nagdabit]

While what LeWi has said is correct in principal, the one thing you can not account for is what splits your Male CFW and Female Pied may be carrying. So don't be surprised if some chicks pop up that are totally unexpected. Zebras are famous for carrying recessive traits, sometimes for generations, until all of a sudden something triggers them to make an appearance. Really the only way to be certain is to allow them to reproduce, and survey the results. We have couples that the clutches vary from one time to the next. To us that's one of the fun things about Zebras, you just never know exactly what you are going to get.

[lovemyfinch]

As Rory said...zebras are like a box of chocolates, you never know what you'll get.
Mine just surprised me...hen is a normal grey, coming out of a pied male and Fawn/pied female. Male is a normal grey (I don't know his background) They just surprised me with a white baby, most likely recessive because its greatgrandfather was white.

[LeWi]

Salam

u r 100% right Nagdabit
zebra finches are always full with surprises
but u can start to limit the options when both parents are ur production and u know their dad and mom's mutation

lovemyfinch i guess ur white baby is a result of 2 splits of white
the male is split for white and the female is split of white
this becoz the white is a recessive and it will never show up without having the 2 parents carrying it

[Nagdabit]

but u can start to limit the options when both parents are ur production and u know their dad and mom's mutation

And that was exactly my point in responding. Obviously you have a good bit of experience with Zebras and I'm going to guess have been doing selective breeding, so you know the history of your birds for a number of generations and therefore can better gauge what chicks will result. Most of the rest of us, however, started with birds bought from a pet store and have no clue that Normal Gray male that was just purchased could very well have had a Fawn mother, or the pretty little Pied hen might have had a Solid White dad.

I was basing my answer on the assumption that the poster was not fully informed as to their birds' background and just wanted to make sure they were aware of all of the possibilities.

Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge with us. I'm still learning the various mutations and traits and am very appreciative of any knowledge I can get.

[LeWi]

Salam

u r welcome
i will try my best to share my knowledge with u all and learn more from u as well as u all will learn from me
knowledge is unlimited and we will always remain students

my birds now are in their 3rd generation ( not all of them ) but so far i mated all of them and i know their splits from their babies

i just started like any one of u .. i started with a pair from the pet shop
and i am still buying birds from shops On and Off

yes i do selective breeding to come out with some complex multi-mutation birds ... this is what makes me addicted to zebras hehhe

btw the bird in my avatar .. when i bought him he was grey black cheek for me .. nothing more
i mated him with a split black cheek female and the surprise was that he is split CFW and Fawn ( i knew that after the babies grew up ofcourse )

i gave my opinion to slee044 of what is expected to get based on the information he gave and on the theory of each mutation

but we wont know the results untill he breeds them

Regards

[slee044]

Thanks with all the info.