How do I use Ronivet 12% for baby gouldian finches.

[j23siempre]

I wish you only the best results.
It is a long and tedious job, I actually had to take Timmy with me to work every day, and even on a planned all day road trip. But it is worth it in the end, to be able to say I did it.

00000 boy tell me about it, the first 4 days I was getting up 3x in the middle of night, so I wasn't getting any sleep because then I had to get up early to take my husband to work because we share the car then get my daughter ready for school, and finally take myself to work with my babies aswell. This is my everyday Routine except for getting up at night.I still bring my babies with me to work every day and feed every 2 hrs. So I understand what you mean, it sure is a long and tedious job, its like a second job if you think about it but its all worth it at the end oooooooooooo cant wait

[atarasi]

Good luck with your chicks. You are very dedicated to get up in the morning 3 times to feed them.

People recommend a specific brand of apple sauce, I believe. Maybe it's just the natural unsweetened type.

[lovemyfinch]

Good luck with your chicks. You are very dedicated to get up in the morning 3 times to feed them.

People recommend a specific brand of apple sauce, I believe. Maybe it's just the natural unsweetened type.

I actually used baby food. No sugar and no additives that are unecessary.

[j23siempre]

If you are hand feeding and suspect a yeast infection, nystatin or medistatin can be given, or I have even had good results just mixing baby applesauce with the hand feeding formula, then thinning to proper consistency with warm water, as long as the yeast infection was just getting started.

i know this post is very old but today 2016 im currently hand feeding a 20 day old GF for the second time ever. i really need to know what to do if nystatin or medistatin treatment dosent work for clearing up green poo. i starded on medistatin 2 days ago and i feel his poo still looks green, im very clean with everything when feeding so i dont know what to do. baby feeds well and looks health its just his green looking poo that really concerns me.

Any help would be appreciated

[cindy]

Ronivet is safe to use until weaning.

[cindy]

Nystatin is meant for fungal and yeast that are typically secondary to other issues. You likely need another med..it could be parasitic or bacteria.

Are the parents in an aviary? single cage? Are you feeding greens to the parents?

are you handfeeding or are the babies with the parents?

Nystatin is delivered directly to the beak on an empty crop...do not add nystatin to the water in the cage it is light sensitive and breaks down fast in light. When you mix it up the mixture should be kept wrapped or in a dark bottle in a dark cabinet.

dose for nystatin.... 3 to 4 drops on an empty crop the first day

after that it is dosed twice a day.

If the dropping s are off best to post a picture.... what are you feeding the parents? Have you treated the parents?

Belly pictures of the babies if handfeeding will help as well.

[j23siempre]

[quote="cindy" If the dropping s are off best to post a picture.... what are you feeding the parents? Have you treated the parents?
[album][/album]Belly pictures of the babies if handfeeding will help as well.[/quote]


I have been feeding chick since day one, parents where never involved. i mix kaytee feeding formula with baby rice cereal. i really think i should start adding another treament but not sure what . i read ronivet is used for protozoa infection but if hand feed since day one, its less likley to get it. again i have ronivet,sulfa and baytril on hand aswell. i attached pictures. what do you think i should do?? and soon.

thanks

[Sally]

Personally I would not be hitting a baby handfed with so many meds, their little systems are so fragile still. Unless you know for sure what you are treating, you are just putting stress on the baby with no way of knowing if you are treating the right med or not IMO.

I also never added extras to the hand feeding formula except perhaps a bit of organic baby apple sauce when it appeared the baby had a yeast infection starting. The rice cereal can change the nutritional balance of the hand feeding formula. I even quit using the medistatin, I'm just not a big believer in medicating, especially a 20-day old chick.

[debbie276]

Personally I would not be hitting a baby handfed with so many meds, their little systems are so fragile still. Unless you know for sure what you are treating, you are just putting stress on the baby with no way of knowing if you are treating the right med or not IMO.

I also never added extras to the hand feeding formula except perhaps a bit of organic baby apple sauce when it appeared the baby had a yeast infection starting. The rice cereal can change the nutritional balance of the hand feeding formula. I even quit using the medistatin, I'm just not a big believer in medicating, especially a 20-day old chick.

I absolutely agree with Sally.
The handfeeding formula is a complete food, no reason to add other things.
Also not a believer in throwing medications at the birds unless you know what your treating for, especially tiny chicks.

[cindy]

the belly is not normal, the belly is lumpy and it looks like the organs are inflamed.

Baytril should never be used on young baby birds that are still developing.

You can mix Ronivet powder with tri sulfa powder to one part water
dose either by making the formula with it or beak dosing it. I would let the crop empty after feeding once empty before feeding drop a drop of nystatin into the mouth then feed.

Never add anything extra to formula... formula is mostly carbs, rice cereal is mostly carbs... babies that are ill usually have yeast as a secondary issue, yeast feeds off carbs. Also adding additives to the formula messes with the vitamin, mineral intake of the baby as it develops.

As far as the feeding from day one theory the mother can pass bacteria and certain diseases to the egg before she lays it.

Also babies should not be fed a lot of food for the first few days until the egg sac on the belly is absorbed.... you can give a drop or two of a very diluted formula mix a few times a day do not attempt to fill the crop while the baby has the egg sac, do not feed 1 and 2 dayold babies through the night, it will help it absorb the egg sac. Once the egg sac is absorbed then you can start a regular feeding. Warmth is a must with young.

The longer the egg sac remains non absorbed the more chance you stand of bacteria infection setting in and there is no way to treat it since the egg sac has no blood supply.

Also check your parents droppings.

Tri sulfa is slow acting, very safe to use on babies, it does not mess with the gut flora like other antibiotics do.

Also babies that do not have their eyes open will react to movement, breeze and appear to beg even when the crop is full, do not over feed. The begging like that will stop once the eyes are open.

[cindy]

the areas with the red arrows are areas of concern.

[cindy]

note nystatin should not be give at every feeding.... first day when there is an issue you try to get 3 to 4 drops that day (one drop per dose) after that it should be given in the morning and at night.

Do not mix the nystatin in the formula, light sensitive and will break down fast in the light, also mixing it in the formula dose not guarantee a full dose.

storing nystatin/medistatin once made up should be done in a dark or wrapped bottle in a dark cabinet, do not put in the fridge.

[cindy]

going to pm you.... you do not need the rondiazole. There is an intestinal issue.