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Post by **Sally** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:05 pm

Ginene I don't have any RCCBs to sell at this time, mine have not been breeding. My friend Helen I'm sure would be able to set you up with a pair of Stars, she has both Red-faced and Yellow-faced. I'll ask around about the CBs. I think you said once before that your husband makes business trips to Dallas, maybe something could be arranged for the fall. Otherewise, USPS would save you some money.

As far as asking the vet, I just meant check with her to see if 5 days would make any huge difference. It's probably just a guideline. I know there is a bird club in NY, that would be a good source of breeders, I would think. I imagine the reason your vet said to go with small breeders rather than brokers is that most brokers don't breed themselves, they simply search the country for birds for sale or work with breeders that supply them. Many brokers then resell the birds with no history, they intermingle purchased birds with no quarantine, they will sell siblings without saying they are siblings, or they will pass off birds they purchased as ones they bred themselves. Not to say there aren't good brokers out there, but putting it simply, most brokers are in it for the money. Few breeders make much if any money breeding finches, unless they breed enough to almost be a bird mill themselves. Instead, most small breeders are in it for the love of the finches, they sell some of their stock simply to keep their numbers manageable and to help pay for some of their expenses.

Ginene · Post by **Ginene** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:48 pm

Sally

most small breeders are in it for the love of the finches, they sell some of their stock simply to keep their numbers manageable and to help pay for some of their expenses.

Yes...this is exactly the situation with the local guy I purchased some birds from. He only sells his offspring, and uses the money to purchase finch necessities. I had a great experience with him, but my concern was with his son breeding father/daughter and mother/son. I figured the dad probably did it too. I wasn't aware of it before I made the initial purchase. Then when I went back for Goulds, I bought 1 of his hens and a male that he didn't breed himself. Anyway, I would be so happy to purchase Stars from your friend. I think 2 males would be best (1 red & 1 yellow face). Does she breed other species as well? I appreciate you asking around about the RCCB's...I know they are very difficult to breed. I absolutely ADORED my pair...definitely a favorite of mine!!!! I haven't even contacted Martie yet!!! Lol! I am assuming I will be able to purchase birds from her based on Dante letting me know she will be at the upcoming mart in NY:oops: !!! I spoke to my hubby, and he said Rochester (where Martie is) is actually 2 hours closer than that mart. He said we could drive there after the quarantine period, as long as its ok with Martie. I have to PM her...but it wouldn't be till mid-late October. The same would go for the Stars and RCCB's...mid-late October. Thanks for the help, as always Sally. I miss my birds terribly...especially my babies

. But I smile every time I think about them now, instead of crying. So I am doing better

.

chirpy · Post by **chirpy** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:13 pm

Ginene wrote: Sally
I miss my birds terribly...especially my babies . But I smile every time I think about them now, instead of crying. So I am doing better .

Aw.. They are near you like your son said, on your shoulders preeeening away

Post by **Sally** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:48 am

Ginene wrote: Does she breed other species as well?

She also breeds Owls, Shaft-tails, Gouldians, Societies--can't think what else.

Post by **Sally** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:56 am

Ginene wrote: I had a great experience with him, but my concern was with his son breeding father/daughter and mother/son. I figured the dad probably did it too.

Line breeding father/daughter or mother/son is not the terrible thing that breeding siblings is supposed to be, as long as it is done very carefully. One generation, and then outcross like crazy. Many breeders use it to try to strengthen a certain desirable trait. However, when it is continued, then you have the problems of health, decreased size, etc. When in doubt, the safest thing is to purchase one bird from one source and then its mate from another source.

Ginene · Post by **Ginene** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:16 pm

When in doubt, the safest thing is to purchase one bird from one source and then its mate from another source.

Great suggestion. The only M/F pair I bought that I would have been concerned about was the Green Singers. The others were a M/M pair of owls, Female Gould he bred/Male Gould he purchased, and a lone male RCCB. I have his number, so I can always see if he has any other breeds. I know his son got into breeding Cuban Melodious.

She also breeds Owls, Shaft-tails, Gouldians, Societies--can't think what else.

Hmmm...I wonder if she has fawn and regular owls. I'm thinking a M/M pair/1fawn and 1normal

. I think you gave her my info once before, when we were looking for Stars for Lil Joe. Is it too early for you to give it to her again??? You have to convince her to join the forum Sally

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Acelin_Wolf · Post by **Acelin_Wolf** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:34 pm

I have to say that it's nice to see you doing so well. I would probably be just like you, eager to get back into finching. They bring something to our lives that is hard to describe!

BTW...I like your avatar/icon.

Ginene · Post by **Ginene** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:56 pm

Acelin_Wolf
Thanks...it feels like a lifetime since my birds were here...I am so looking forward to having them again. This time the cap is at 5 pairs. I am so excited to bring them home. My avatar is from the forum animated choices. I like it too. Thanks.

Post by **Sally** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:46 pm

Ginene wrote:
She also breeds Owls, Shaft-tails, Gouldians, Societies--can't think what else.
Hmmm...I wonder if she has fawn and regular owls. I'm thinking a M/M pair/1fawn and 1normal . I think you gave her my info once before, when we were looking for Stars for Lil Joe. Is it too early for you to give it to her again??? You have to convince her to join the forum Sally ...

She has both fawn and normal Owls. I will see her this coming Saturday, so I will talk to her about some birds for you.

Nanajennie · Post by **Nanajennie** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:49 pm

This is good new Ginene, and I am finally smiling about your situation knowing you are too! Thank GOD for this forum and all the wonderful people and connections we all have... YAY! I can't wait to watch the beautiful NEW life your NEW birds will bring you and the Joes!!! xoxo

Zebrafincher · Post by **Zebrafincher** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:39 pm

Its lovely to hear about you rebuilding your flock!!! Stars are really lovely little birds!!! I have a yellow face, Merlin, currently, and also had a red faced, Fruit.

Ginene · Post by **Ginene** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:51 pm

Sally
Yay, yay, yay Sally!!! You are a peach! Btw... I hope your kitties are both doing well.
@Nanajennie@Zebrafincher
Thanks Guys...I am excited to have feathers and seed hulls in my home again. I miss my guys terribly...even though they are here in spirit. October is still a while away. I hate to wish the summer away, but Fall cant get here soon enough for my family

. I am so blessed to have so much help and support from my forum friends. YAY for my family! Finches for us again

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