update: gouldian chicks coloring up

dfcauley · Post by **dfcauley** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:58 pm

Just wondering if anyone can tell what color these two chicks may be....

Dad is yb/oh/pb and mom is gb/bh/pb.

The one that is coloring up the most is obviously a purble breast, but is it a dilute? Never had one before and wasn't sure of the light color of green.

The forecaster didn't predict that.... :

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L in Ontario · Post by **L in Ontario** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:48 pm

Hi Donna, If your YB male is visually yellow then he is Double factor yellow. Single factor yellow with a purple breast male will appear dilute which I believe your young one is, with the purple breast.

The Genetic Forecaster does show the offspring being dilute with your parents, if you highlight the row.

atarasi · Post by **atarasi** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:53 pm

Liz are you saying that all visually yellow backed cocks are double factored?

dfcauley · Post by **dfcauley** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:32 am

Thanks Liz. I didn't realize that the double factor meant they were visually yellow...... still trying to leave about these colors.

L in Ontario · Post by **L in Ontario** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:33 am

atarasi wrote:Liz are you saying that all visually yellow backed cocks are double factored?

No - as far as I understand it all - visual YB cocks can be either single or double factored IF they have a white or lilac breast. If they have a purple breast, then they will be double factor yellow (visual YB) OR single factor yellow but dilute (not visually YB).

I have a RH/WB/YB cock who is single factored. If this one had a purple breast, he would be a dilute.

I also have a RH/PB/YB cock who is double factored.

Another way to tell if they are double or single factored YB cocks is the amount of blue around the head and under the beak. Single factor will be much more noticeable whereas the double factor will be much paler as to be almost white.
Somebody correct me if I messed that up.

FeatherHarp · Post by **FeatherHarp** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:48 pm

I am just here to look at the nice photos

When anybody starts talking about Gouldian genetics....my eyes start to glaze over!

L in Ontario · Post by **L in Ontario** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:15 pm

FeatherHarp wrote:I am just here to look at the nice photos

When anybody starts talking about Gouldian genetics....my eyes start to glaze over!

I understand completely Deborah! I find the genetics difficult too and had to edit my post as I had it backwards. I really have to think about it bit by bit and this is just the simple stuff at the beginning, don't ask me to delve any deeper! LOL

atarasi · Post by **atarasi** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:26 pm

I have a white breasted SF yellow cock that I would consider a dilute....he has a slight green to his body with the light blue around his head. I also have a DF yellow with a white breast. He is more yellow with no blue around his neck. This genetics thing is confusing. If you have a green or blue backed bird, they can only be dilutes if they have a purple breast.
I don't think there is a difference between a SF and a dilute when it comes to the yellows.

ShaneW · Post by **ShaneW** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:36 am

Can someone pls explain what single an double factor and dilute means, and how to identify this. Thanks

poohbear · Post by **poohbear** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:58 am

Shane...
Put this site in your favourites column...it's a mine of information on the Gouldian finch...

http://www.ladygouldianfinch.com/features_software.mgi

dfcauley · Post by **dfcauley** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:34 am

Here they are all colored up and ready for new homes.

Best picture I could get. They don't like my camera.

L in Ontario · Post by **L in Ontario** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:52 am

They look great, Donna! Real pretty colours.

How do you have the cuttlebone attached in the middle of the photo?

dfcauley · Post by **dfcauley** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:59 am

It has a hole drilled in the middle and screwed into the perch post.

I hardly ever see them using it. ..... Every once in a while they do, but mostly they eat egg shells and F-Vite.

L in Ontario · Post by **L in Ontario** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:02 am

Ah okay I see the screw now. I never would have thought of screwing it on. Unique!

bonnies_gouldians · Post by **bonnies_gouldians** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:59 pm

The yellow backed red headed male is gorgious!!!